Texas and the 2x2 Religion

Texas is home to many in the 2x2 religion. The false prophet and Texas 2x2 overseer is Lyle Schober. The 2x2 religion has four annual church conventions - Happy, Texarkana, Georgetown and Mountain Peak.

Not Even Paid Federal Minimum Wage?

I think it's amazing that Lyle Schober has run the 2x2 organization without even paying the workers Federal minimum wage. Not that he has to. I think workers are convinced to work for him for free.

If you are a worker and Lyle Schober has even paid you something for your work, I would love to hear from you. If you think you are a subcontractor, have you filed your income taxes and paid your taxes? If you believe you are an employee of Lyle, have you been paid by Lyle? Is he withholding unemployment insurance? social security? FICA? etc?

If you think you are a subcontractor, have you tried working for another employer while being a worker? You can fill out the IRS from called "Form SS-8, Determination of Worker Status for Purposes of Federal Employment Taxes and Income Tax Withholding".

Texas Overseer Lyle Schober's Ultimatum

From what I've heard through stories and accounts, the Texas 2x2 overseer Lyle Schober will excommunicate anyone that tells him to his face that:

"I believe Jesus Christ is God, salvation through faith in God brings salvation, and anyone who has faith in God is saved whether they go to meetings or not.

Anyone who doubts this can just try it and submit their experience in the form below.

Texas 2x2 Overseers

  1. Lyle Schober - Current 2x2 Texas overseer. I believe Lyle began to be the Texas overseer in January 2011.
  2. Ray Hoffman (2008 to ~Jan 2011)
  3. Ira Hobbs - Many accusations of child sexual abuse, left work in May, 2008
  4. William Lewis (died in 2000)
  5. Hubert Childers
  6. Gus Jeanson
Georgetown (Spanish), TX - Annual Church Convention Dates:
From: 2018-10-12 to 2018-10-14
From: 2017-10-13 to 2017-10-15
From: 2016-10-14 to 2016-10-16

Georgetown, TX - Annual Church Convention Dates:
From: 2018-10-18 to 2018-10-21
From: 2017-10-19 to 2017-10-22
From: 2016-10-20 to 2016-10-23
From: 2015-10-15 to 2015-10-18
From: 2015-10-09 to 2015-10-11

Happy, TX - Annual Church Convention Dates:
From: 2018-07-19 to 2018-07-22
From: 2017-07-20 to 2017-07-23
From: 2016-07-21 to 2016-07-24
From: 2015-07-16 to 2015-07-19

Mountain Peak, TX - Annual Church Convention Dates:
From: 2018-10-25 to 2018-10-28
From: 2017-10-26 to 2017-10-29
From: 2016-10-27 to 2016-10-30
From: 2015-10-22 to 2015-10-25

Texarkana, TX - Annual Church Convention Dates:
From: 2018-10-11 to 2018-10-14
From: 2017-10-12 to 2017-10-15
From: 2016-10-13 to 2016-10-16
From: 2015-10-08 to 2015-10-11

Texas 2x2 LETTERS

Ray Hoffman's Letter to 2x2 Texans about Child Sexual Abuse

When Ray Hoffman was overseer of Texas, he wrote about the problem of Ira Hobbs child sexual abuse allegations. See the Texas CSA letter that Ray Hoffman wrote to the 2x2 friends about two or more workers Ira Hobbs and Americo Quespe in Texas who were being investigated about child sexual abuse.

Dale Gardner Excommunicated for Confronting Workers about CSA

Dale Gardner wrote letters to the workers stating "workers have been sexually immoral to members of my family". He expressed his sadness when sexual offending workers were moved to new fields to have more victims instead of confronting the crimes they committed. He sought to have a meeting to correct the unrighteous pedophile deeds of Ira Hobbs. So what was the result? Dale Gardner was excommunicated by the upset overseer. This is a prime example of what happens to people who complain about sexual abuse by workers.

Here is a picture that was taken of the 2x2 workers at a convention that I attended when I lived in Texas in about 1999/2000.

A Texas 2x2 Workers Pictures at a Texas Convention in about 2000

Texas 2x2 News

Doug Carlson Has a Talk with Brandon Miller for Dating an Outsider Christa Hageman

Doug Carlson and a few elders had a talk with Brandon Miller and Christa Hageman. Brandon Miller was a 2x2. Brandon was dating and living out of wedlock with Christa. Christa claimed she was a Christian.

Brandon Miller is the son of Brenda Miller.

Brandon's meeting attendance was spotty. He was telling lies to Christa that she could take part in meetings even though she wasn't professing (she didn't anyway). Doug Carlson and the elders asked him to drop the Christian girl he was dating, citing that they were unequally yoked (Brandon being a 2x2 and Christa Hageman wasn't professing). Doug Carlson advised Brandon to get back to regular meeting attendance or he would be asked to not take part in meetings.

Brandon falsely claims that they took away his part in the meetings which wasn't true. Doug Carlson and the other elders just told him that they would if he didn't quit dating an outsider and he didn't have regular meeting attendance. At this talk, Christa found out that Brandon had been lying to her the whole time about the 2x2s believing she was saved because she claimed to be Christian.

Even though Brandon was telling lies to Christa, (and Christa found out at the talk with Doug Carlson) she married Brandon. Christa married without the blessing of her Christian parents who profusely warned her against Brandon. Christa's brother Dan Hageman who claims to be a Christian, helped Christa get together with Brandon even though Dan Hageman too believed Brandon was in a cult. Dan Hageman lives with his wife Lori Hageman in Green Lane Pennsylvania which is close to Telford, PA where Christa used to live.

News from McAllen, TX

This was posted on boardhost by "rs"on September 13, 2012, 6:44 pm. I cannot confirm or deny it. I am merely quoting what I read on boardhost.com website. If you have any evidence for or against this, please send it to me along with your full contact information through the form at the bottom of this page.

Julie Pedersen a daughter to Bob & Janelle Pedersen that live in McAllen, Texas was found dead this afternoon. Bob & Janelle have meeting in their home. They mentally & physically abused Julie all her life. She turned to drugs. Julie told me years ago how her parents would decide what to speak on for their Sunday meeting sermon that would be directed at certain people in the meeting. Julie was pressured by her mom to say and do a lot of things to manipulate and criticize people.
Her mom had Julie burn Laverne Sparks (an older sister worker) clothes because she thought the clothes were too old and that she should buy new clothes. Bob & Janelle have always manipulated the workers. Janelle is a Pathological Liar who has destroyed many relationships. She started her daughter on drugs to try to keep her from talking and telling the truth about the 2x2's & her family. This is a Prime example of what happens to your organization that is full of abuse and corruption.

If someone has Laverne Sparks contact information, then someone could try to contact Laverne Sparks (the sister worker) and verify at least that part of the post.

This is horrible! Having been raised a 2x2, and been in meetings in almost all 50 states, I have seen and heard some pretty sad stories. It is important that people find out the truth. I encourage you to contact all of Julie Pedersen's friends and please share what you find out.

I Believe Child Sexual Abuse is a Real Problem in 2x2 Cult

Please read Child sexual abuse page about child sexual abuse problem in the 2x2 cult

Texas 2x2s - A Stronghold

Texas is a stronghold for the 2x2 cult. I am putting this page together as an exercise to show the scope and organization of the 2x2 religion largely established and founded by William Irvine in 1897. The 2x2 movement was originally started in Ireland by William Irvine who broke away from the Faith Mission and started teaching that he was sent by God. The 2x2s split off later, taking power away from William Irvine, whose following "The Message People" continue to this day.

Texas Friends - Money and Financial Resources

From what I remember in the book The Secret Sect by Doug and Helen Parker, Texas could supply the whole world of 2x2 overseers AND workers with funds.

Workers's Fields in Texas

The Texas overseer has divided the state into 12 fields so that workers know their geographical boundaries to lessen conflict between workers. There used to be 14 fields, but as more workers quit and fewer start out they have to divide the state into fewer fields. Each field is assigned 2-3 workers by the overseer.

  • Fort Worth, Wichita Falls
  • South Houston
  • Southwest TX
  • San Antonio, Junction, Del Rio, Acu´┐Ża
  • South Texas, Mexico border
  • Panhandle - Dumas, Tulia
  • East TX
  • Northeast TX, SW Arkansas
  • Austin, Round Rock, Georgetown
  • Dallas, Sulphur Springs
  • North Houston
  • Belton, Waco, Comanche, College Station

Texas Workers Managed by the 2x2 Texas Overseer

There are about 44 workers employed (hired/fired/admitted/dismissed) by the 2x2 Texas overseer. Harold Bennett, the 2x2 overseer in Oregon, told me that he and his staff of workers do not pay or file income taxes even though they are clergy, ministers.

Texas 2017-2018
  1. Clarence Mounce
  2. LaRon Branson
  3. Loren Quick
  4. Kenion Bryant
  5. Carl Hamilton
  6. Talus Murphy
  7. Dale DeRaad
  8. Vaughn Ellingson
  9. Westin Price
  10. Silas Gartin
  11. Matt Hill
  12. Kenion Coleman
  13. Ronald Elliott
  14. Duane Topinka
  15. John Culver
  16. Dan Wisecup
  17. Berlin Raymond
  18. Ray Hoffmann
  19. Kevin Naillieux
  20. Doug Murray
  21. Scott Potter
  1. Ruth Henderson
  2. Esther Wahlin
  3. Lavina Swenson
  4. Marie Mounce
  5. Joyce Lawrence
  6. Diane Newhouse
  7. Mona Reece
  8. Sara Ranstrom
  9. Jennifer Bartels
  10. Marilynn Frye
  11. Lynda Martin
  12. Rachel Potter
  13. Emma Perez
  14. Lynae Hunt
  15. Brook Henderson
  16. Jennifer Lester
  17. Marilynn Frye
  18. Jennifer Downs
  19. Alice Oetken
  20. Mary Simon
  21. Lidia Morales
  22. Ruthie Topinka
  23. Sue Nelson
  24. Sharon Wahlin
  25. Sara Lacock
  26. Mona Jo Hahn
  27. Andrea Jensen
  28. Hannah Bassham
  29. Marie Faircloth
  30. Sue Bailey
  31. Nita Bearden
  32. LaNell Malray
  33. Rosa Elia Morales
  34. Yvonne Stephens
  35. Sue Dawson
  36. Stacey Seidlitz
  37. Susie Block

I have had a report about John Culver who was making advances on a woman. Which isn't surprising because my first companion in the 2x2 work had three affairs within three years, two of which were with married women.

Website Visitors from Texas

Website visitors from Texas include: Abilene, Addison, Adrian, Alba, Aledo, Allen, Alleyton, Alvarado, Alvin, Amarillo, Andrews, Angleton, Arlington, Athens, Atlanta, Austin, Azle, Baird, Bastrop, Bay City, Baytown, Beaumont, Bedford, Beeville, Bellevue, Belton, Ben Wheeler, Bertram, Blanco, Boerne, Bonham, Borger, Boyd, Brazoria, Breckenridge, Bridge City, Brookshire, Brownsboro, Brownwood, Bryan, Buda, Bulverde, Burleson, Burnet, Caldwell, Cameron, Campbell, Canyon, Canyon Lake, Carrollton, Cedar Hill, Cedar Park, Celina, Center Point, Centerville, Channelview, Chappell Hill, Cibolo, Cleburne, Cleveland, Coleman, College Station, Colleyville, Collin County, Conroe, Converse, Cookville, Coppell, Copperas Cove, Corpus Christi, Corsicana, Crandall, Crockett, Crosby, Crowell, Crystal City, Cypress, Dalhart, Dallas, De Leon, Del Rio, Del Valle, Denton, Desoto, Dickinson, Donna, Dripping Springs, Dumas, Duncanville, Edinburg, El Paso, Eldorado, Elgin, Ennis, Euless, Flint, Florence, Flower Mound, Forney, Fort Worth, Forth Worth, Franklin, Freeport, Friendswood, Friona, Frisco, Fulshear, Gainesville, Galveston, Garland, Gatesville, Georgetown, Geronimo, Gilmer, Glen Rose, Goldthwaite, Goliad, Gonzales, Graham, Granbury, Grand Prairie, Grandview, Granger, Grapevine, Greenville, Groves, Hale Center, Happy, Harker Heights, Harlingen, Hearne , Helotes, Henderson, Henrietta, Hereford, Hewitt, Hillsboro, Hockley, Hondo, Houston, Huffman, Hughes Springs, Humble, Huntington, Huntsville, Hurst, Hutchins, Hutto, Industry, Ingleside, Ingram, Irving, Jacksonville, Jefferson, Joshua, Jourdanton, Junction, Justin, Katy, Kaufman, Keene, Keller, Kemp, Kennedale, Kilgore, Killeen, Kingsbury, Kingsville, Kress, Kyle, La Grange, La Grange - East of Austin, La Porte, La Vernia, Lake Jackson, Lamesa, Laredo, League City, Leander, Levelland, Lewisville, Lexington, Liberty Hill, Lincoln, Lindale, Little Elm, Livingston, Lockhart, Longview, Lubbock, Lufkin, Lumberton, Mabank, Magnolia, Mansfield, Manvel, Marble Falls, Mcallen, Mckinney, Mercedes, Mesquite, Mexia, Midland, Midlothian, Mission, Missouri City, Monahans, Montgomery, Mount Pleasant, Mount Vernon, Mullin, Nacogdoches, New Braunfels, New Caney, New Waverly, Normangee, North Richland Hills, Odessa, Oglesby, Olney, Olton, Onalaska, Ore City, Paige, Palestine, Pasadena, Pearland, Perryton, Pflugerville, Pharr, Pittsburg, Plainview, Plano, Port Arthur, Port Lavaca, Porter, Princeton, Prosper, Quinlan, Red Oak, Red Rock, Rhome, Richardson, Richmond, Riviera, Roanoke, Rockport, Rockwall, Round Rock, Rowlett, Sachse, Saginaw, Salado, San Angelo, San Antonio, San Augustine, San Benito, San Juan, San Marcos, Sandy, Schertz, Seabrook, Sealy, Seguin, Seminole, Seymour, Shallowater, Sherman, Shiner, Silsbee, Silverton, Slaton, Spearman, Spicewood, Spring, Spring Branch, Springs, Stafford, Stephenville, Sugar Land, Sulphur Springs, Sundown, Sunset, Sweetwater, Taylor, Temple, Terrell, Texarkana, The Colony, Thornton, Tomball, Trinity, Tulia, Tyler, Van Horn, Venus, Victoria, Vidor, Waco, Waxahachie, Weatherford, Webster, Weslaco, Wharton, White Deer, Whitewright, Wichita Falls, Willis, Wills Point, Wimberley, Winona, Wolfforth, Woodsboro, Woodway and Wylie.

Texas - Home

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Georgetown Convention

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TX NM 2018

Texas Workers List

TX 2005

TX 1992

Texas Picture

Brandon Miller

Christa Miller

Austin Field

Marie Faircloth Funeral

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