Suing 2x2s for Damages

A fund has been started to assist in suing 2x2 overseers, workers and elders that are guilty of criminal negligence in sending known pedophiles into the homes of parents with children.


Overseers play a great part in the 2x2 religion in their recruitment of workers for their staff of employees. They are responsible for hiring and firing workers. Because of this, they are responsible for doing background checks (which I have never heard that they do) on workers before placing them in the homes of their followers who have children. Did you know that when I was a worker they overseer never even asked me if I knew what the gospel was? Can you imagine?

2x2 overseers are responsible for putting their workers in pairs and in which area they assign them to preach. Overseers have been known to take a pedophile on their staff and move them to another state or country. See Ruben Mata, Americo Quispe, Ira Hobbs. Ira Hobbs was a known pedophile and was an overseer of the 2x2 religion in Texas.

While overseers, workers and elders can currently lie and deceive people about their religion, there is a legal line crossed when 2x2 overseers, 2x2 workers or 2x2 elders commit sex acts with children. see Child Sexual Abuse

Civil Liability

The Court - And the basis for the no contest please Mr. Boyle (attorney for 2x2 overseer Jerome Frandle)?
Mr Boyle - Potential civil liability , your Honor.

Some overseers are beginning to wake up and be afraid of a civil lawsuit. See Jerome Frandle's Sentencing Transcripts 1 as to why he pled "no contest" to avoid civil liability.

Overseers are also subject to organized crime laws, specifically RICO, Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. When overseers cover up the child sexual abuse crimes of workers and then drive these workers out of state to avoid prosecution and avoid reporting the crime so that their followers don't catch on to what is happening in their organization. While they have gotten away with this in the past, this behavior is now documented in court records and they probably won't be so lucky no matter how secretive they are in the future.

On the Record

It is on the court records: the name of the organization, that it is secretive and non-transparent. Also, the court has documented things to check into in future child sexual abuse coverups. See this quote from the court records at the sentencing of 2x2 overseer Jerome Frandle.

On the other hand, during the course of the hearing it became very clear to the Court that this organization, which I believe is THE FAITH is a highly secretive organization. I don't know how the hiearchy operates on a day to day basis. I don't know whether or not Mr Frandle has participated in the removal and transfer of other people that may have been involved in this type of conduct. But I'm not assuming that he has. I'm pointing out for the record that we don't know. It's a very secretive and non-transparent organization. - Judge David B Herrington at the sentencing of 2x2 overseer Jerome Frandle for failure to report child sexual abuse.


Workers who molest children are the most often caught. They have put themselves in a very difficult situation, giving up everything to be completely used by the overseer to do his bidding. Each year, the pattern is for the workers to give the senior workers all the money they have collected throughout the year.

When workers are caught, it is the workers' parents who have paid for attorneys because the workers are kept poor by the overseer. Especially younger workers don't have access to the trust funds that the overseers control. They cannot afford to hire attorneys to represent them to avoid penalty for their crimes.

Suing Elders and their Wives

There is talk of suing elders of the 2x2 religion for their involvement in recruiting minors into their secretive 2x2 religion and bringing them into contact with workers who are known to commit child sexual abuse. And I am all for this.

If an elder plans on setting up children for child sexual abuse and crushing their hearts, then they need to be prepared to face the consequences.

If you have a child that is under 18 and a 2x2 elder is trying to recruit your child into their organization and for example take them on a trip out of state to a convention etc without your consent, then feel free to contact me.

I know of one elder's wife who was showing me pictures of naked kids from her meeting. I was shocked at the time and didn't know what to say.

Who are 2x2s

Signs Following


Recent 2x2 News

False Prophets - 2x2s

The Con Man

The Perfect Church

KJV Errors

Homeless Preachers


Meetings in Homes

2x2 Preaching

Registered Names

2x2 and Outsider Letter

William Irvine 2x2 Founder

Edward Cooney

Roman Catholic Church

Their Righteousness

2x2 Rhetoric

Kept From You

Jesus Christ


No Commandments?

Someone Better

Are 2x2s Christians?

Why This Website

2x2 Terminology

Who Is Going to Hell

From 2x2 to Jesus Christ

Blessings after Faith

Truth Religion

2x2 Timeline

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Lawsuit Fund


Typical Recruitment

Don't Go to Meetings

Please Talk to me

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