Sex Crimes of 2x2s

2x2 sex crimes are a huge problem in the 2x2 cult because of the doctrines and beliefs of the older brothers, overseers, workers, elders and parents of children in the 2x2 religion.

According to scripture, the greatest cause of criminal sexual activity is the rejection of God as LORD.

And this makes perfect sense to me because 2x2s reject the 10 commandments. 2x2s reject Jesus Christ as God's word. So how could 2x2s glorify Yahweh (our creator) since they don't know who he is? Instead it is common to hear workers glorifying themselves and their way, either covering up child sexual abuse, adultery etc or doing it themselves, as they fellowship with their friends, taking part in communion.

Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

When I came across this letter of Paul to the Romans, it was just incredible how this principle completely matched the 2x2 religion. I hope you can see the same.

Idolizing Workers and Hating Their Children

Proverbs 24:11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?
Numbers 32:23  But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.

There are dozens of web pages warning parents about the sexual perversions of some of the 2x2 overseers and workers and elders with case numbers, names and stories. If parents don't protect their kids when they have learned about child sexual abuse problems in the 2x2 religion, then they are responsible before God for neglecting the welfare of their kids. And some may face federal and state charges.

Foster Children and Pedophiles

In a court of law, knowledge beforehand of child sexual abuse and failure to act can be held against friends of the workers who neglect their kids.

Bringing a foster child especially one who has been sexually abused to a 2x2 Sunday morning meeting, Special Meeting or convention where there are pedophiles may constitute legal grounds for the child to be removed from the foster home.

Infamous Sexual Abuse Cases in 2x2 Religion

Ruben Mata sexually abused many children and covered it up in Mexico and was moved to USA by overseers and workers to help him avoid prosecution and exposure of the cult. He was sent to a meeting where foster children went. Nobody was warned. After more children were abused, Ruben Mata was finally prosecuted in the USA and jailed in California.

Rape Charges

Former overseer Leslie White was accused by a sister worker of raping her. Leslie White is not cooperating with authorities. But this is what the friends of the workers have come to expect - no moral backbone from the overseers.

The worker Ira Hobbs sexually abused a young girl and went on to become overser of Texas!

The worker Darren J Briggs sexual abused a minor.

Worker Peter William Mousseau sexual abused more than one child.

Overseer Jerome Frandle moved an abusing worker out of state and was convicted for failing to report child sexual abuse of one of the workers on his staff.

Worker Bill Denk was convicted of failing to report child sexual abuse.

Ernest Barry molested many 2x2 girls in Australia and avoided prosecution because people were afraid to step forward..

Curtis Jacobsen sexual abuse a minor around Portland, Oregon.

See George Scandalis child sexual abuse. about sexual abuse by Noel Tanner. Noel Tanner was eventually brought to court and convicted.

And more recently the worker Chris Chandler in Australia.

And now another older worker in Australia faced multiple accounts and his name is being withheld by the Australian court.

This is what people have come to expect about the 2x2 leadership. I believe criminal child sexual abuse if clearly the fruit of their nonscriptural teachings on forbidding workers to marry, rejecting Jesus Christ to be worshiped and rejecting the New Testament which is God's law (the 10 commandments) written on our hearts and in our minds.

This is in no way a complete list of sexual abuse problem stemming from the overseer's rules of forbidding workers to marry and how workers cover up crimes.

The Seriousness According to Scripture

Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Workers Given Access to Trusting Children

Workers have access to a lot of kids and can pick the weakest individuals. Workers can befriend the parents and use that relationship to discredit their kids if the children tell their parents of child sexual abuse. And since it is a cult, parents often believe the workers instead of the kids. This is one of the many dangers of cults and idolatry of overseers and workers.

No Background Checks? Negligence

I don't believe overseers do due diligence when recruiting workers. I have never heard of them doing criminal background checks before they hire workers. I wouldn't be surprised if a 2x2 follower whose child is molested will someday sue an overseer for neglect in this matter. Especially if an overseer knew that a worker had sexually abused kids before.

Parents are Responsible

It is the responsibility of parents to teach their children right and wrong. If they do not fulfill this charge, then the overseers and workers will teach their children what they want.

Parents should have a greater interest in the welfare of their children than overseers and workers. So if parents don't fulfill their God-given responsibilities, then they should not be surprised when someone with sinful motives takes advantage of their children and teaches them what serves their own flesh. The overseers and workers already teach things that feed their human interest against the Bible, so why should parents expect anything different when it comes to sexuality?

And please read Dale Gardners Letter and Lyles letter - Tim Severud and Milo Wicks and former worker Reuel Leach

Here are some thoughts I have as to why child sexual abuse (and it's cover-up) is probably rampant in the 2x2 cult.

Children, when fearful, will recant to preserve their own lives

Celibate - One who abstains from sexual intercourse, especially by reason of religious vows.

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

I believe some people are kicked out of the work not because they committed sexual crimes, but because they got caught and it became known and people perceived it as an embarrassment. I do also believe that their are overseers and workers who have committed crimes against children but have not been caught and it has not been made public. I believe there are a number of these individuals and even though an overseer may know about it, they probably have not because it hasn't "become a problem" yet for them. How many children are hurt before a pedophile is caught? I hear it is quite a few. Is it loving of an overseer to allow a pedophile into a field with children? Is this the work of God to allow children to be sexually abused? Or is this the work of the devil and being done in God's name?

If workers who have sexual desires but yet are wanting to obey their overseer by not marrying, are masturbating in your bathrooms (and claim to not be having sex), is this a good example you want for your kids? Answer me please. Just put your answer in the box below and send me your answer.

Is this an example of Godly living that you are upholding to your children? When workers are having affairs with women in the field, is this the example that you want for your kids? Please, answer me. How old are you? Put your answers in the box below and if you are proud of your 2x2 heritage, then put your name and address and phone and whether you want it posted on this page with your answer. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin. Are you convicted or is your conscience seared too?

Forbidding Marriage

Overseers have ruled that workers cannot marry. This teaching is against the will of God. Overseers have set themselves up as an authority figure over the workers. Workers obey the overseers or they may well lose their jobs.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

The overseers have never begun in faith in Jesus Christ. Their faith is in their system which is against the will of God. The overseers have given heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. Their doctrine that workers cannot marry is one example. They speak lies in hypocrisy by forbidding to marry, but workers masturbate, have sex with each other, have been accused of rape, have had affairs with women and have sexually molested little boys and girls. The workers are not commanded to abstain from meat. But the rest is clear. They teach celibacy, but their lives are not pure. Who in their right mind would be a follower of these people? Quit going to meetings and quit getting brainwashed. Go on a month long vacation as an excuse and read this whole website. Read your Bible. Get a life in Christ. The overseers and workers have created rules that even they do not follow. And I believe they will cover up their failings to save face. It may well be at the expense of your kids and you next.

People Supporting False Teachings

If parents don't quit attending the meetings where perverted teachings are taught and exemplified (like workers cannot marry), then they are setting their children up for destruction. If you are a 2x2 parent and are reading this and don't act on confronting the workers about their lies immediately, then I see no reason why you should be surprised if your kids are molested by an overseer or worker.

If a person claiming to be a true servant of God lies to you about the scripture and deceives you to get access to your home, do you think they would hesitate to sexually rape or molest you or your kids?

Parents, the ball is in your court. If you don't act to protect your kids, then I believe you have conceded to your kids being sexually abused. I believe you are more responsible than the overseer because you have greater responsibility to act. If your minds are messed up so much that you believe the "forbidding to marry" is OK even against the Word of God, then how do you think your kids are going to think straight when they have you for an example?

Workers have set themselves up as an authority figure over parents. Parents, whether in ignorance or self-will, obey the workers.

Parents are in authority over the children. This is Biblical. It is the will of God. Parents are responsible to protect their children. If parents don't resist the false authority of the workers who spiritually abuse them, then it is easy to see why their children cannot protect themselves when overseers and workers want to sexually abuse them. If parents don't protect their kids from false doctrine and stand up to the workers, then it makes sense that the parents are not going to protect them from physical and emotional and sexual abuse.

Workers have sexual desires. There are workers that do not have the gift of being celibate.

There is a huge stigma in the cult of a worker leaving the work.

Bible is perverted by overseers and workers to try to support the rules of the overseers. These perversions in scripture created problems in attaining logical thinking and judgment by overseers, workers, elders and parents of children. Children, whether they understand the Bible or not, do understand the rules that they see from the behavior of the 2x2 followers.

If an authority figure like an overseer or worker wants to have sex with a kid, what is going to keep the kid from trying to reason with an overseer or worker? Can the kid quote scripture when they are not taught? Who are they going to complain to? In the kids mind, they believe the overseers and workers have greater authority and control than their parents.

Children and teenagers have sexual desires at some point in their lives. Children learn from authority figures. Overseers and workers have set them up as authority figures even above the child's parents. Children figure this out.

Sex crimes - Breaking the laws of man to keep the laws of the overseers. The laws/rules of the overseer are that workers cannot have a wife or husband. Because they don't have spouses, workers can develop freakish ways of meeting their sexual desires. When their desires are not kept in check (because they don't believe in God), then they can develop perversions. I know that as a worker, being single frustrated me. I wanted to have sex. And while I never did this, I can easily imagine...but wait, I don't have to. There are examples of workers fantasizing about kids and having sex with them. And they have stayed in the work this way. I know the stigma of leaving the work. Workers misuse the verses Luk_9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. So that is why I see the laws/rules of the overseers being kept and man's (and God's law) about not having sex with kids is being broken.

Let me say this again in other words. God says sex with kids is bad. In USA, government says sex with kids is bad. Overseers have rule that workers cannot marry. Overseers and workers and elders and friends have stigma for people who leave the work to marry. So, is it any wonder that workers develop sexual perversions to try to satisfy their flesh in order to try to stay in the 2x2 work?

Fornication is common in the 2x2 cult. So it may not be seen as a problem for a teenager to be sexually active with a worker to "help keep them in the work".

Hard for followers to know if a worker was moved because of coverup. Overseers and workers may not answer their questions. Asking too many questions may get them black listed. So, in fear, people may keep quiet and not voice their concerns.

While a worker may "repent", they don't need to keep being a "worker" and be moved to a new "field" where there are more unsuspecting children to prey on.

To continue to be a worker for years, one has to either become hardened in heart or they have to break emotionally, mentally and/or physically. I am convinced that if someone has stayed a worker long enough to be an overseer, then I believe their conscience is completely seared.

People are not taught how to handle offenses. Matthew 18:15-20. Bible is not seen as something to be followed when there are problems. So they don't know how to deal with problems.

People would be terrified of going to the authority. As it is, people get kicked our of meetings for failing to attend. So how much more would they get kicked out of meetings and their own family if they reported child sexual abuse of the workers?

Workers sleep in the beds of little boys and little girls. The smell of the children in the bedding and being in their room with their posters and perhaps clothes may really turn some of the perverted individuals on.

Confessing and forsaking theirs sins is not followed. They do not practice this at baptism.

People are to repent of their thinking (that is against workers) and thinking that the workers are "bad" or can do "evil" is "negative" and "not nice". So people don't repent of sin, they must repent of their own will and thinking.

Rule 1: Workers and overseers are always right. Rule 2: See rule 1

Secrecy - Withholding information from the followers. Done by overseers and workers all the time.

Superiority - Overseers and workers feel superior to their followers and their followers feel the workers and overseers are superior to them. It is seen in their behavior.

different classes - the friends whole job is to support the great and mighty workers so they can continue to be workers

Maintaining the workers is considered a great cause and anyone who is a worker needs to be treasured

Workers lives

no accountability -

moving around every day to every few days

Shallow relationships

Sexual desires persist

No real relationships - so they fantasize about women, fantasies don't include the harsh realities of destructive nature of sexual abuse. They already take advantage of adults' ignorance. So, why not children?

Workers are used to taking advantage of parents, why not the children?

Secrecy shrouds why some workers get moved from year to year and why others stay. There is no transparency.

People who are manipulated to feel sorry for workers may vouch for them.

Followers are used to lying and being deceived, so after stating hurts, they may later recant to try to maintain their "faith". Dealing with truth may be too hard for them. They may feel all is lost and they are going to hell if they should acknowledge child sexual abuse.

Child sexual abuse destroys the fantasies the friends have about what the workers are really like.

Some workers take advantage of lonely women and men counsel women without husbands presesnt. So why wouldn't a younger worker who sees this feel justified to some degree to take advantage of the kids.

Kids are ultimate fantasy of the workers taking advantage of people. They lie to kids about how the cult got started, they feel they are superior to the friends and so why not meet their sexual desires with a child?

Morals are not upheld in the cult. That is the "old law". They have no moral code. They believe they are being led by the "spirit of God", and to believe they did something wrong would be to attribute wrong to the "spirit of god".

Thoughts are not kept in check by faith in God. They don't live by the Bible. Their consciences are seared. They have created their own religion in their mind so that their lives reflect nothing good. So why should it matter if child sexual abuse is a sin in the Bible? The other parts of their lives are not found in the Bible either.

The probably sexual indiscretions of the overseers probably causes them to feel sorry for workers. So the overseers do for the workers what they would want done for them. Who do the overseers report to? To whom are they accountable? They are not transparent in their dealings. They cover up by telling lies about people and are in a fantastic position to discredit and dethrone any of their followers by letting calculated phrases slip as they go from house to house.

The 2x2s are secretive. To expose sin would be to expose the workings of the 2x2s. And they want to remain anonymous so that when they come into a community, people don't see the traps that the workers set for people. If people knew what the overseers and workers are really like, I don't think they would ever follow them.

Overseers have a vested interest in keeping the image of the "perfect workers" in front of the "friends". If the workers lose face, people would see them as glorified, self-righteous homeless people who have perverted the true gospel for the sake of making a living off people and being on a power trip.

Workers don't actively preach against sin. They lie, deceive, manipulate, slander, use guile and destroy families lives while deceiving people about what the Bible says. So they are not going to preach against child sexual abuse. To warn the people about the workers staying in their homes would be the same as making the kids cautious and subsequently cause them to question the workers and not profess.

People who believe the workers gospel as a young child will become workers despite their own sexual discipline. And when they cannot control their sexual impulses, they will do what they have been taught to do by the workers. They will not confess and forsake their sin but rather cover it up.

Oversees who coverup for workers gain favor and loyalty from those workers. It obligates them. Which worker would want to bad-mouth an overseer or expose his faults if the overseer knows secrets about them?

Dysfunctional, anti-social people who believe the overseers preaching are the perfect candidates for becoming workers. Total worship of the overseer and workers way.

Overseers are held in high esteem (without cause) by workers and the 2x2 parents. So if unquestioning obedience is taught (and the Bible is not understood), then children will be willing participants to a sexual experience that they find fun that pleases the workers.

Workers are in a power to cause children to recant their testimony. Who is going to believe a young child over a professing parent or a high and mighty worker or overseer? No professing person would. They would have to question the workers (rising up against Moses), and that would destroy their fantasies about their religion.

For a worker who feels "called by God" to fail in his calling (of being a worker - one of the few, the proud, true servants of God), is spiritual suicide. And for an overseer to see a worker fail who is "trying really hard", would have to admit they have failed too and their self-discipline and made up religion doesn't work.

Children are taught to uphold the workers above their own will. Their questions are stifled and they are shut up by the behavioral control of the workers and their followers.

Children live in fear and respect of the workers and many don't feel "worthy" of the workers. Being wanted (even for sex), may be seen as a privilege by some children.

The rule of kids not being able to report sex crimes, or rather that they cannot be prosecuted after X years probably keeps former abused children from speaking out.

Who, as a kid, would know, have strength to deal with or could handle facing an issue of child sexual abuse? It may look like an insurmountable problem.

Sexual abuse probably does not start with children, but has escalated to that point. By the time a person has been caught, there have been many other incidents that have not been reported.

There are no formal reviews of workers.

Children who are sexually abused probably develop problems and quit professing, much to the relief of the workers. By making some people uncomfortable, overseers and workers can literally make their problems "go away" It is ironically, the die-hard 2x2s who are stubborn that cause the overseers and workers the most problems because they refuse to go away.


  • Ask a worker if he is celibate.
  • Ask them if they masturbate in bathrooms or rooms where they sleep.
  • Ask the worker if they have ever heard of a worker having an affair with a women in a field
  • Ask the worker if they believe it is wise to leave a child alone with a worker
  • Go talk to your neighbor and show them the case numbers of convicted 2x2 criminals. Now ask your neighbor if they believe you should go leave your kids alone with workers.
  • Show your neighbor the scripture about how seducing spirits will cause people to forbid marriage. Now tell your neighbor that your 2x2 overseers forbid your workers to marry. Now ask the neighbor if your 2x2 workers are Godly. Now ask your neighbor if you should keep listening to the 2x2 workers preaching.

Is it love or hatred to allow your children to be exposed to false doctrine of workers and allow them to be in situations where they can be molested by overseers or workers? Is it love or hate to lie to your children and molest them yourself or set them up for being taken advantage of? Love or hate? Do you love your kids?

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