Professing in Meetings
Professing, profess, "make your choice", "stand to your feet", "raise your hand" - all these are terms used by the friends of the workers or professing people to describe the initiation process, rite of initiation, the rite of passage, the process of joining the 2x2 religion that they call the Way, the Truth and the Faith. Once you have professed, then you are "in". You are a "made" person.
Limits on Professing
Well, mostly "in". I learned as a kid that you couldn't "fully" participate in meetings until you had been baptized. Even though you were a member, you weren't really a "full" member. You couldn't participate in the bread and fruit of the vine. 2x2s don't believe that everyone should partake of the fruit of the vine and the bread, even if you are professing. As a kid, both my sister and I had to be baptized by a worker first.
Later I learned the real reason for it: In a meeting, the workers "test" the meetings to see if the person they are "praying for" will profess. If the person stands up in the meeting and professes, then all is well. But, things don't always go as planned. There may be a renegade they don't really want who is in the meeting. They may choose NOT to test the meeting to avoid the dilemna of them standing up too, but if the timing seems ripe, they may have to test the meeting anyway to get the "desirable" to profess. So, when testing a meeting has it's limitations (they cannot choose who stands up), baptism is their next rite of passage that they can control. At baptisms, it's all settled before the baptism, who will be baptized and who won't.
I remember being at a baptism and there was a man there who told the worker "I want to be baptized". The workers response was, "You just keeping coming to meetings." I learned that's how they choose their flock. They pander to the people with money and kids in college and give them lots of opportunities and "loving" and they put barriers in the way of the people they don't like. So much for their "god" building their church. It's a church of their own making.
The Rite of "Professing" is Not in Bible
Did you know that the apostles didn't teach the 2x2 ritual of "professing" in a "meeting"? You never read in scripture of the prophets, the law, Jesus Christ or the apostles ever teaching the practice of "testing meetings" to see who will join and who won't. Also the "gospel" (if you want to call it that) of the 2x2s is different. While the 2x2s gospel is "repent of Christian affiliations and only believe in the workers", the gospel of the Bible, Prophets, Jesus Christ and the apostles is: repentance of sin, faith in God.
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
Mar 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
This passage shows the sharp contrast to the 2x2s. Now let's look at a typical worker way scenario:
An ignorant person is invited to meetings. In meetings they hear how God's way is simple, that workers have given up so much for them, how the workers are dying so their church can live, how they need to be simple as a child and accept what the only true servants of God are teachings. Then, when a person wants to join the church they ask, "How do I join". Rather than the workers saying "Repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ", they say, "Just come to the meetings, and we'll test the meetings..." And the topic of baptism is only brought up later after the workers see if the person's subservience to the workers meets their standards.
Workers don't believe in this scripture. Did you know that the workers don't even believe that Jesus Christ is God? That is one of the reasons why they don't want people to confess Jesus Christ with their mouth. Did you know that the Bible teaches confessing Jesus Christ with your mouth and believing in God with all your heart? Paul wrote this in a letter to the Romans.
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Do you see that the gospel that Paul preached was faith in God from the heart, confession with the mouth and baptism as a sign of accepting the gospel of the apostles? The "gospel" of the workers differs greatly from the apostles because they don't believe Jesus Christ is God. If you profess, they you believe that workers are the true servants of God and not the apostles of Jesus Christ. The workers contradict the teachings and practices of the apostles who got their gospel from Jesus Christ.
The apostles taught that you can know if you are saved. Read again what Paul wrote, "...God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Paul wrote that you can know if you are saved.
Significance of Professing
Some people just don't understand what professing is about. It's like a Gentile getting circumcised to become a moder day Jew. It's like a parent-less street person killing someone to join a gang. It's like a person joining a secret cult by performing a sex act with an animal. Plain and simple, professing is the rite of passage, a joining of yourself with the 2x2s.
If you Profess
If you profess in a meeting held by workers, you are in fact denying God. You are professing that the workers are the only true servants of God, and that all others are going to hell. This is denying that Jesus Christ is God. "How?", you ask. The workers don't believe that Jesus Christ is God. But Jesus Christ is God, and the Bible clearly teaches this. Also, Jesus Christ was crucified, poured out his blood and in so doing brought in the New Testament. The New Testament is God's law (the 10 commandments) written on our hearts. But the workers don't believe in the New Testament that Jesus Christ brought in. They don't believe in upholding the "will" of Jesus Christ. They don't believe in keeping the ten commandments. The Bible teaches that if you don't keep the commandments of God that you don't KNOW GOD!. So there you have it: If you profess, then you have denied Jesus Christ who is the only one who can save you.
2x2 Definition of "Profess" or "Professing"
"Professing" or Making your choice" - When an "outsider" stands in a meeting while the friends sing part of a hymn as the outsider shows their allegiance to the workers and their MESSAGE by standing to their feet or raising their hand when asked by the worker who is leading the meeting. A person who has professed is now considered professing. When a person has stood in a meeting, or raised their hand in a meeting that was tested by the workers, they are formally considered a member of the 2x2 cult, are put on the field list and are expected to attend all meetings and take part in meetings. They are no longer considered an "outsider".
Lies about Professing
Some people who want to marry someone and need to get them to profess may lie about the outward ritual of professing. Are these "white lies"? Are they innocent lies? Is it a small amount of guile? Let's look at a 2x2 recruiters lie of "Professing is just showing to the people that you believe in Jesus Christ. You are just confessing Jesus in public." OK, you are rolling on the floor laughing, but I've heard that 2x2s actually tell this to their boyfriend or girlfriend to try to get them to profess by making professing out to be something that it is not. Someone saying that professing is just making your choice for God is like convincing a Muslim that professing is just a way of showing their devotion to Allah. Does that hit home or what? Or it's like telling a Jew that professing is just like showing your faith in God. How big a lie is that? It's the same lie to tell a Christian that professing is just publicly showing your choice for God. It's just not true. And it's a huge lie. That's how far 2x2s are willing to go to deceive people they lust after in order to get them to profess. And I've heard the stories. And yes, if a 2x2 lies to you like that, they don't love you, but hate you and show it by manipulating you. I hope that gives a little scope on how far recruiters will go to deceive people into joining the 2x2 religion.
Professing - What It Says About Them
Things are expected of people who profess and have gotten the "revelation" that the are the only way to heaven and the workers are the only true servants of God. People who are professing are expected to believe these things:
Professing - Twisted Scripture Support
No scripture for professing (as the word is used by 2x2s), MAKING YOUR CHOICE or STANDING TO YOUR FEET or RAISING YOUR HAND. I tried to find any scripture to support standing in a meeting while a hymn is sung (the meaning thought about when people say they are "professing"), but couldn't find any in the Bible. It's such a pity I was so misled and didn't search the scripture for this teaching of the workers years ago. Professing is required by the workers before people can be part of the cult.
I cannot think of any scripture that the workers give for their ritual of TESTING MEETINGS. I don't think they get asked that much. Search the scriptures yourself to find if any of the prophets or priests or apostles ever asked people to profess. If you find any, or know of any that the workers use, please let me know in the form below.
What is Professing or "MAKING YOUR CHOICE"?
"professing" or "making your choice" is about "brand loyalty" or loyalty to the overseer's system. It's about associating God only with the homeless workers and Sunday morning meetings in the home and their 2x2 "gospel" (not real gospel) meetings. This is why nobody openly repents of their sins during this formal ritual. It is not anything like John's baptisms in John 1 or the baptism of the apostles.
What the Bible says
The Bible teaches us that that gospel message preached by the Jesus Christ and the apostles was Repent and believe. Receive Jesus Christ and he will make you a child of God. Be baptized into Jesus Christ and be baptized by Jesus Christ with the Holy Ghost and fire. As a worker, we didn't preach this message. We taught through our deeds "Profess and go to meetings for the rest of your life. Accept all the workers decisions and support us." I didn't know a thing about the laying on of hands, the baptism of the Holy Ghost (I never knew a person that had been baptized by the Holy Ghost) and I didn't know persecution. I didn't know the gospel and preaching was difficult because of this. So I just preached what I heard other workers say.
Professing - Joining Cult - Membership
"Professing" is what you do to join the cult. It makes you a member. After you profess, they put you on the field list. You are then expected to go to meetings for the rest of your life and give your "testimony"/ "parrot" the workers each Sunday. You are also expected to support the workers, agree with them and support all their decisions. Professing to the 2x2s is about joining them.
Steps to Professing
The workers know, that if you keep coming to MEETINGS, then you like the SPIRIT they have. They make you feel guilty if you don't PROFESS. If you keep on coming to MEETINGS and don't PROFESS, then they feel like you are "leading them on", are not called by God and are not SAVED.
They know then it's only a matter of time if you keep coming to MEETINGS before the devil gets you to PROFESS.
Steps to Getting Someone to PROFESS
A lot of kids PROFESS at convention. The workers get most people to become workers at CONVENTIONS. Convention are a very powerful part of the process of assimilating people into the organization. I was often told that only God could do conventions because the other people of the world could not have things run so smoothly. Little did I know when I was a child about WORKERS sleeping with each other or getting motels at convention times nor the kids sleeping together in tents at convention.
Crying - the Witness
I've never seen a person profess and be happy or flooded with joy after i>professing. I've always seen them cry afterwards. And I've had many people send me comments in the forms that they also cried when they i>professed.
i>Professing is about receiving an evil spirit. People who have left the cult struggle against this evil spirit for years later. This page is probably the most important page you will ever read about 2x2s. Their whole religion focuses around professing. When did they profess? How long have they been professing? Did their parents profess? etc. The 2x2s know that if you profess, then there are many things they can assume about you. If you are professing, then they feel safe talking with you, and that you share the SAME SPIRIT as them. All 2x2s intuitively know that if you are professing, then you have received the same spirit as them. It is the seducing spirit that Paul, the apostle wrote to Timothy, warning:
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
If you are PROFESSING but no longer have their spirit, they call it "professing, but not possessing". If someone leaves the cult, then they may say "They never had it anyway" or "He was professing, but not possessing".
While receiving Jesus Christ and believing in Him is the important, the 2x2s use "professing" to show your allegiance to them. They use a similitude, something that looks Godly, to cloak their membership initiation.
If you go to a church, they ask if you are a Christian. If you are new to the people in a meeting, they want to know if you are "professing". There is a huge difference between "professing" and being a "Christian". My grandpa, Jim Beck (now dead) used to believe/ say that if you didn't bring someone to meeting who i>professed, then you probably weren't "possessing". Workers and their followers who get people to profess gain more confidence, believing that God must be with them. However they fail to remember that the Catholics probably say the same thing when they get people to be baptized into the Catholic Church.
Samson and the Harlot Delilah
If you are dating a 2x2 and are a Christian, it is going to be another story of Samson (Christian) and the harlot Delilah (2x2). They have time and will try to wear you down to profess, enticing you with lies and acting hurt if you don't profess for them. Read Judges 16 to see many similarities.
Attention to Christians
Before you can profess, you must first receive a revelation from the devil that their group is the only way to heaven and these workers of iniquity are God's true servants. This is not a church, it is a church-imitation, a cult, the imitation handiwork of the devil! And the devil isn't playing games, he's playing for keeps.
You have to deny Jesus Christ and His work on the cross first. All the people in meetings had to profess to join, you would be no different regardless of what a 2x2 tells you. When the workers test the meeting, only newcomers (non-professing people) are expected to profess. If you are a female, they may even bring in a woman worker to make it easier for you profess. Usually they test the Sunday meetings because it has the added pressure from Sunday morning meetings, but sometimes they will test mid-week meetings if they have someone particular in mind.
If you profess the workers way by standing to your feet, then evil spirits will enter you and you will be a child of the devil. Professing is the initiation into the cult.
Pressure to Profess
2x2s will tell people that they are Christians in order to alleviate people's fears. But when they want you to profess (which is their goal, so the devil will control you), then they will come up with "harmless" excuses/reasons as to why you should profess. Here are a few:
The Pressure to Profess in a Tested Meeting
Most people do not understand the power of the devil. The devil is very active in a tested meeting, using false guilt to get people to profess. Many children stand to their feet, having no intention on doing so, older people too. Many mistaken the relief after professing for the break of anxiety from all the people expecting them to profess. Their is a great difference however between the spirit of God and relief from caving into peer pressure. All those people looking around seeing if the person that everyone is talking about is going to profess. "Did you see anyone stand up?", "Did you see so and so profess?" They are talking about standing to their feet in a tested meeting, not a revelation that Jesus Christ is God. They are talking about joining the cult and a person receiving a revelation from the devil that they are the only way to heaven. How can most withstand this pressure, knowing so many people expect if from them? Thoughts run through their head, "They are so nice to me. They've invited me over for meals and played games with me." Then the guilty feeling sets in and they stand to their feet, to relieve the guilt of peer pressure, having nothing to do with God, but with the mind control, tactics of the devil and pressure of the flesh to please the overseers (sometimes who they have never even met yet).
Recitations - Giving "Testimonies"
You will then be allowed (after you profess) to recite testimonies in meetings with them. These recitations burn into your mind and brainwash you. It shows to the devil and others that you no longer follow God, but the servants of the devil. The recitations show your continued allegiance and they are expected each Sunday morning meeting. If you quit giving your "testimony"/recitations, then they become "worried" about you and start asking questions.
If you reject Christ and the cross, then there is no other sacrifice to sins, having willfully despised Christ, knowing who he is and having had the Holy Spirit in your life. A horrible blackness will fill your soul that you cannot shake and all the joy you once had in Christ will be destroyed.
I have seen the lost look in the eyes of two Christians who professed in the meetings that Randy Russell and I held in Albany, OR.
Their names are Will and Phyllis Smith if you want to look them up. Randy had to get permission of the overseer Howard Mooney (now deceased) in order to allow them to profess. In Texas remarried people can profess and fellowship with them. I was in Alabama (if I remember correctly the Southern state) and there was a man that had divorced and remarried five times and was still professing and taking part in meetings.
Satan is a liar and a deceiver and a seducer of souls.
Followers gain power in the cult by bringing more people to meetings and helping more people to profess. They may tell you that you don't need to profess to join, that they accept you as a Christian, but they will still try to get you to profess and "take part" in meetings. This is what Paul, the apostle warned about "speaking lies in hypocrisy" in 1 Timothy 4. They may even claim that there is no membership, yet will admit their name is on a field list. The fact remains, they want you to profess. And the fact that they keep testing meetings proves that.
Mostly, it is the "friends" or followers that bring people to meetings. The workers know that once you trust their messenger, you will trust their message. They may try any number tricks: guilt trips, "you don't love me", "what's wrong with you", lavishing affection, praise, build up your pride, brag about you etc to make you feel bad if you don't accept them, agree with them and profess. This is a false guilt trip. Your best solution is to end the relationship and get away as fast as possible. Getting involved with unhealthy relationships with liars, in dating, and in meetings with evil spirits is a nasty combination with many possible horrible outcomes. Remember: rebuke the devil, flee youthful lusts.
Beware of These Lies
People in the cult will probably prep you before hand to condition you to "profess" in a meeting. They may make it look like no big deal if you are a Christian and say something like this:
2x2s know how big a deal that professing is. While they may say to you that "standing in a meeting" means one thing, but to them it means something totally else. A 2x2 named Brandon Miller writes about his "official" act of professing.
...Before I officially professed I was sitting in a Sunday morning meeting in Illinois before it started and started reading through some hymns....
2x2s that are professing know that they need a professing fianc�e to have the workers' blessing on a marriage. Otherwise they would be "unequally yoked". They may cite:
2Co_6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
It is quite possible that the devil himself is in the meeting when it is tested. If you are a Christian and have somehow found yourself deceived and caught up in the cult and going to meetings, then you must fight this demonic spirit with your whole being. Wrap your feet around the chair legs, pray in tongues, pray fervently, remember that Jesus taught salvation comes through confessing with your mouth (not standing up in a meeting during a hymn) and by receiving him, not the cult leaders. If you have brought duct tape, then duct tape your feet to the chair.
Tested meeting - A 2x2 worker's meeting in which they ask you to stand to your feet to show you want to join their group. If you were a Christian already and wanted to join them, you would have to profess first. Most 2x2s believe that you need to profess to be saved. But that teaching seems lost on some. Read below:
I appreciate Brandon sharing his beliefs. I know how the workers in his area feel about this, and I'm glad that he believes he doesn't need the workers to be saved. Later after writing this, Brandon was told by his elder Doug Carlson that he needed to up his meeting attendance and quit dating the outsider he was living with (outside of wedlock) or they would ask him to quit taking part in meetings
What Bible Teaches
The Bible teaches baptism as an outward sign of belief in a particular message. Those who believed John the Baptists message (repent, and that Jesus was coming) were baptized by him. Those who believed in Jesus Christ, were baptized into his message. And then came the baptism of the Holy Spirit, when Jesus baptizes those who believe.
No Scripture for Satanic Practice of Professing the Workers Way
There is no scripture for "testing a meeting" or "professing". Some could say that they think they are becoming disciples of Jesus, but really they are joining a cult. They have no idea of the devastation that it will have on their lives (and their marriages). No matter what they say before people "profess", you are expected to be devoted to the cult, go to the meetings and "give your testimony".
How It Works
After a series of 2x2 meetings, the worker talks with the overseer and decides (if anyone is ready to join) to "test a meeting". Here's how it works.
Confusion about Professing
Many kids think that they need to profess to be saved. But yet, when they get older they realize that they don't even know if they are saved. This is because they don't know how to be born again, because they don't know God. They just know a wide variety of opinions from the dozens of workers that come and go and teach their opinions to these followers. Read one 2x2's beliefs that he sent me in an email
This is how 2x2s typically talk. They express themselves in the "negatives" / in what they don't believe in. Like "I don't believe in churches. I don't believe in a paid ministry. I don't believe in TVs. It also shows that Brandon doesn't believe what Jesus Christ taught about being saved is true. If a person believes they are saved by receiving Jesus Christ, then when someone confesses Jesus Christ with their mouth and receives Jesus Christ, we know they are saved.
Rom_10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
I want to emphasize that there is no scripture or doctrine in the Bible that teaches anyone to "test" meetings. It is not something taught by God in the Bible. Workers learn it from older workers. If a person wants to obey God, they do not need to "profess" in a meeting. This teaching of "professing" and the practice of "testing meetings" is not in the Bible anywhere.
If you "profess" then as workers, the next thing we wanted to do was baptize them into the workers' way. Christian baptisms were not accepted. The baptism has to be performed by a worker.
Expected to "Profess" to be Saved, Expected to "Take Part in Meetings"
The term "profess" when used by a 2x2 does not mean that you confess with your mouth and say "I believe in Jesus". It means that you "stand to your feet" in a "tested meeting". That is a very important point. Again, the term "profess" doesn't mean that you confess to the world to serve Christ, it means that you have allied with the workers. You are professing the workers' way, not confessing Jesus Christ. They don't want Christians, they want "professing people".
As a 2x2 worker, I taught people that they needed to stand in meetings and remain silent or sing the hymn with everyone else (actual actions for word "profess") to be saved. I have been told that the custom varies from country to country, but the idea is the same. You must make a commitment to the group, not necessarily to Jesus Christ. In fact, if you do believe in Jesus Christ (a Christian), you would have to renounce your other fellowships and "profess" in order to have join them and receive the same spirit as them. When I was a worker, a "Christian" divorced couple who wanted to join the cult had to "profess" in order to "take part in meetings".
The problem was that people didn't know Jesus after we had taught them "gospel meetings" because the message was so muddled with cult phrases and cult speak that people didn't even know the commandments of the Lord. We also despised Christians and were antisocial in our views. It was a horrible mess. The teachings of the workers' way and their traditions made the Word of God of none effect anyway. You cannot be a 2x2 and a Christian.
After you "profess" in the workers' meeting, you are expected to "give your testimony" and attend all their meetings. If you attended other church services or fellowshipped with Christians, they would say that you didn't get the "message withing the message". This "message" that they/we were talking about is that they are the only ones saved and going to heaven. And if you aren't part of that group, then you're "lost".
Handbook to Profess
|To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. - Jesus Christ speaking to Saul, see Act 26:18, see Salvation through Jesus Christ.|