Percy Watkin's Funeral Notes

Here are the funeral notes for 2x2 cult member and 2x2 worker Percy Watkins who committed suicide rather than face legal issues.

Funeral service for Percy Watkins, aged 59, who committed suicide while a 2x2 worker in the 2x2 religion, under the employ of Ben Crompton, and the current companion of Peter Liddle in the UK. It was held at Hereford Crematorium on Thursday 5th March 2015. You can see the praise the overseer of UK (Ben Crompton) and other 2x2 coworkers heap on the man who committed suicide and preached a perverted gospel that leads people to suicide and hell.


...a beloved and faithful minister and fellow servant in the Lord Col 4:7

Percy passed away on Saturday 21st February 2015 in Lancashire where he had been working with Peter Liddle. Some were attending the mission there and he was in good form and was outstanding that last evening, when he spoke in Fullwood the day before he committed suicide. His passing has been a huge shock and has touched many lives. He was highly respected for the Work's sake, and the support from far and near has been overwhelming. Many of his colleagues from many countries have written expressing their appreciation of him, not just from themselves, but also speaking on the behalf of others laboring in those parts. Some referred to the gentle spirit he manifested.

The funeral was held in Percy's home part in the county of Hereford where most of his family lived. His mother Nancy, was able to be with us, as the service etc. was held locally. Around 500 gathered for the service, including all of the English staff. Percy's sister Joyce was able to come, also Debbie Hewett who has to be home at the moment. Alan Beggs came from Scotland.

Bearers: Herbie Eaton, Peter Hingeley, Rob Pepper, Mark Wilson, Denis McKendry, Ross Bailie

Hymn 54 was sung: So Kind a Shepherd

Barry Longhurst prayed

Raymond Rollings

The Bible seems very real at times like this - very living/ 1 COR 2:2 - these are words of Paul, who also gave his live as a minister of Christ, like Percy. 'For I determined to not know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ and Him crucified.' When Paul brought the Gospel of Jesus Christ to these people he determined to know nothing - he didn't put his own views or opinions on it - he just preached Jesus, and Him crucified. This is the essence of the Gospel - of Jesus going to the cross. As we know He was badly treated, at the end He was crucified and His blood was shed. If anything appeals to us today, it is what comes from Heaven. Let us remember the blood that has opened Heaven, and opened God's heart, that touches our hearts - that blood of Jesus. Jesus said in another place 'I am the good shepherd'. He said 'follow me'. Paul wasn't only speaking about this, but he was following. Percy was the same, following along that road, to the cross. Now we sometimes have a strange idea about this cross, but all these things are very clear. Is 53 is talking about Jesus going to the cross, bearing the cross. We know it's there at the end of the Gospels, but it's there also. Is 54 tells of the messengers - like Paul, like Percy carrying this gospel. Is 55 is the message that they took, that they're taking still today.

Since this is the funeral day it's interesting just to read the last verse of each of those chapters IS 53:12...Jesus didn't have a funeral service - there was no time and nobody appreciated Him...God saying 'Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong; because He hath poured out his soul unto death: and He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bare the sins of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.' That was the last verse of this prophecy of Jesus. Now the last verse of the prophecy concerning servants - IS 54:17. 'No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper, and and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord - and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord'. That's a great promise, isn't it? IS 55:13 - this is the fruit of the Gospel, which we see in Percy, in Paul, and in all God's people: 'Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off. We're thinking of Percy now. A brier it just scratches us. And the next day even there are still thorns in your finger where it scratched you. This world and human nature complains, murmurs and curses. When the leaves of the myrtle tree are crushed it gives off a sweet scent. Her are some words you don't often hear: 'appreciation', 'gratitude' and 'thankfulness'. We could say that was Percy, in all that he went through, never a complaint.

Remember Job? Satan in his fury tried to get him to curse God. Job 1:22: 'In all the Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly'. Job 2:9: 'Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? Curse God, and die'. She spoke as one of the foolish women. 'What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips'. Thse things are very real as we think of Percy's life. A wonderful example of the spirit of God; of the spirit of Jesus Christ who went to the cross, and said Father, forgive them; for they known not what they do'. These things are very real. We're glad that we have the Bible to comfort us today.

Peter Liddle

We've lost a very dear friend and brother; all of us. And we think of his mother, having lost her beloved son. Proverbs 18:24 '...and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother', and I think there are many of us who know the reality of that today. We've also lost a wonderful co-worker, and a true shepherd. I'ld just like to read some of verses that Percy read in his last Gospel meeting, the night before he died. John 21:15 'So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee...That took place a second time. in verse 17 'He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? and he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep'. Nice to think of the last concerns of Jesus; this was not long before He left the earth. The thing that was on Jesus' mind was Peter's love for Him, and then for the lambs and for the sheep.

Percy spoke that night about showing our love for God, love for Jesus, and the desire to feed the lambs and feed the sheep. He spoke a little from Peter's epistles, how that was what Peter tried to do afterwards, to feed the lambs and to feed the sheep. And we're very grateful for the memories that we have of Percy doing that also. He spoke about love - loving God is the most important thing, love for Jesus and also the love for the lambs and the sheep. He spoke from Acts 12:5 when Peter was in prison- about the others side- reading about the love of the church for Peter: 'Peter therefore was kept in prison; but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him'. That just seemed so beautiful to me as Percy expressed it - the two sides - the love for the lambs and the sheep for the church, for the Lord but then also the love of the church for the shepherd; love for Peter. It was a two-way thing. We're grateful for what we've found that in this wonderful family of God. Percy chose 239 that night: Lord, our hearts overflow with praises...for that life of love so lowly for the cross of Calvary for the resurrection morning, and our living hope in Thee. It seemed a little unusual to sing that as the first hymn in a gospel meeting, but it's very precious to us now.

Somebody speaking of Percy since, said there was no-one more inoffensive than Percy was. And I think we would all give testimony to that. It was part of Percy's character to be inoffensive, and he was concerned lest any offense should be given. Jesus was like that too, and it has been precious to me to think of the time when Jesus was arrested in the garden there and Peter took the sword to defend Him, and he cut off the ear of the High Priest's servant. Jesus said those words, which in modern English, would be something like 'that's enough' - let that be enough'...and He put forth His hand and He healed that man's ear. Lovely to think of the spirit that Jesus had at such a time, to heal that man's ear.

The next meeting I was in after Percy died, Wednesday evening, we read Genesis 45 - when Joseph makes himself known to his brethren. There he said to them verse 5 'Now therefore be not grieved, nor angry with yourselves...for God did send me before you to preserve life'. That was Joseph, that was Jesus- I think Joseph understood that those brothers had suffered enough, and he didn't want them to be suffering anymore. That was the spirit of Jesus, it was the spirit of Joseph, and I believe it was the spirit of Percy also. One other thought, Percy was a humble man. The verse that's been coming to my mind is the time that man came to Jesus and he said 'Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.' Jesus had a lot to do with sinners, he had a lot to do with self-righteous religious people, and he had a lot to do with some of the best men living on earth at that time, and He said that no one is good, not even himself. No one is good but my Father in Heaven. We're thankful for that- that none of us are good, we all need the mercy of God - we all need the cleansing that Jesus affords, and we're grateful for the hope that we have today.

Alan Beggs

This is quite an experience for us all. In lifetime we do see some touching scenes, and if they soften our heart it is a good experience. Just before we came in here, it melted my heart to see Percy's co-workers carrying him in. If it softens our hearts, it's worth it all. Once our hearts are soft there's hope, once they get hard it's dangerous. I don't think it's wrong to use the word 'sad', because Jesus wept. And if Jesus wept it's not wrong for us to weep. I've been thinking a lot about that hymn 60 'When I am sad at heart, teach me Thy way.. in hours of loneliness, in times of dire distress, teach me Thy way' Another hymn 47 says 'Is there anyone can help us, one who understands our hearts? Yes, there's One' And that's Jesus. You might think, well, how does He understand? Well, since Percy died I've got great comfort from studying in Matt 14 about the time that John the Baptist was beheaded. Wasn't that worse than today? That was worse. And John was, as you might say, Jesus' right-hand man; His close friend, the one that baptized Him had been beheaded.

Matthew 14:12 "And his disciples came, and they took up the body, and they buried it, and went and told Jesus." That's what we're doing today, going to bury the body of our dear friend and brother. Then they went and told Jesus. We read in Mark 6:31 about the same incident - He knew they were exhausted and said "come apart and rest awhile." There was so much coming and going that they couldn't even get time to eat. So Jesus said come apart and rest awhile. And do you know what Jesus was longing to do? He was just longing to go and pray. In Matthew 14:23, when he helped everybody he had to help, He sent the multitudes away, went up into a mountain apart to pray alone...This is the one we look to 'teach me Thy way.' And what was His way? His way was to go and pray. Go and pray. Experiences come in life - an old messenger of God died recently, he was 90 years old, and he used to tell us over and over, no matter what happens in life, never let bitterness enter your hearts. Don't let it in. There are experiences and we could let bitterness in, but there's this great advice: Hebrews 12:15 'Looking diligently...lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you...and many be defiled. It says it will trouble you and defile others. So that's the way of Jesus: whatever happens in life, don't let bitterness into our hearts. Whatever happens, don't let it have place. I had the great privilege of spending the last days of 2014 and new year's day with Percy. We had great times - wonderful times. One thing he told us: God is in control of everything, but I am in control of my spirit - we know that God is in control of everything, but Percy he realized that he was the one that had to control his spirit. We are promised a new body, but not a new spirit. Proverbs 25:28 tells us, if we rule our spirit we're greater than he that would take a city. It says that God is going to weigh the spirits. It was said a while back - if you could be 100% right in your judgment, but wrong in your spirit, you're as wrong as anybody. At times we feel we are 100% right in our judgment about something, but if we're wrong in spirit, we're as wrong as anybody. I love the words of Jesus at the end of Matthew 5:48 'Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.' For years that seemed a big statement to me, but this is the teaching of Jesus. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

A messenger of God told us not one of us would be perfect in the body, but we can be perfect in spirit. And that's what Percy's been aiming at; he realized that he was like all of us, he was not perfect in body, all of us are sinners - but he realized he had to be perfect in spirit. In one of those meetings, Percy told us a lovely little story. He told us about a little boy who headed off, walking to school, and it was very foggy, so he turned and came back. He told his mother - it's too foggy - and do you know what his mother told him - go back and go as far as you can. There are times in life, in the journey of life, when it's very foggy and we can't see one step ahead. Percy has shared with us about some of the foggy times, when he couldn't see a step ahead. But he told us in one of his last meetings that we hear him speak the words of that mother - go back and go as far as you can. That's what our brother has done, gone as far as he could. That's all anybody could do. I said goodbye to Percy on New Year's night - he was alone in a house and we had a chat. He told me - the other morning I wanted to go for a walk, and the man of the house was very kind, and he said - I'll go with you - Percy was delighted. But just as they were heading out someone came looking for the man of the house so he couldn't go, so Percy went alone. He told me I just walked and walked and walked, that was very kind of the man of the house, and I would have loved his company, but I believe God arranged it, so I could get alone with God. And he walked through the woods for a long time all alone, but not alone - alone with God. There's a lot more we could say. I'm working in Scotland, and many people up there are very sad today. And we are sad. We're going to miss our dear brother so much. I spoke to him a few hours before he died and we're thankful for his life. Let us now all turn to God the way Jesus did - get alone with God. And whatever happens, never let bitterness into our hearts. This is the way of our Saviour. This is what he would advise us, and may God help us.

The first two verses of hymn 349 were sung "My Pilgrim way"

Ben Crompton

I was thinking about this journey of life - it speaks about Abram in Genesis 12:9 'journeyed, going on...' in the margin it says ' in going and journeying.' That's what it means for us - we have to go on. The journey of life continues. Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness. Some very appreciative things have been said about Percy. He believed God, he knew of this simple faith that Abram had, and followed in His footsteps; in the Lord's footsteps. The Lord said to the apostle Paul Acts 26:16 "stand up now upon thy feet." Percy knew what it was to stand on his feet; he knew what it was to follow. He knew what it was to continue on in this journey of life. Abram faced many experiences, perplexities and difficulties, but for us all it still means going and journeying on.

Hymn 16 speaks about this glorious message that simple faith may claim. I think the glorious message that the hymn writer is conveying is found in the chorus: "Yesterday, today, forever, Jesus is the same." That has never varied, and neither will it vary. It encompasses all the richness of the experience of life. We find that Lord teaches us, and helps us to understand what it means to follow Him, to have faith in Him, to trust Him, to take Him at His word. Like Abram, Percy believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness. So it goes on in one of those verses "He who mid the raging billows walked upon the sea, still can hush our wildest tempest...He who wept and prayed in anguish in Gethsemane, Drinks with us each cup of trembling in our agony." I've just appreciated so much all the love and care God lavishes on us though the gospel. Think of Percy in his struggle of life, and the simple faith that he claimed: there was a simplicity in his life and in his service that we appreciated. We've lost a brother and a very close friend.

I value what was mentioned about humility. The last chapters in John's Gospel have brought a lot of comfort to me. There in John 13 He took a towel, and girded Himself, and became as a servant of the servants - though He was King of kings, and Lord of lords, he bowed himself to serve. Percy was a servant - he was always a servant. Sometimes I've seen him humbled, and he still served - that's a true mark of humility. A servant doesn't look for any place, a servant doesn't look for the limelight, a servant is willing to be guided and directed. Percy never looked for any place - no matter who was looking on, he wasn't trying to impress anybody. He was a servant.

John 13:8 a number of times Jesus spoke those words "I lay down my life." Peter said "I will lay down my life for Thy sake, and Jesus answered - will you Peter? - will you lay down your life?" I think of Percy giving his life in this ministry, in the harvest field. There was no doubt about it - 100% he gave of his strength for the work of the gospel, this ministry. He laid down his life, right to the very last. Jesus spoke of Himself in John 10 as the good shepherd, he said "I lay down my life that I may take it again." It's the only way we prove life eternal, as we're willing to lay down our life.

There are other instances when Jesus mentioned those words, in this Gospel John 15:26, John 14:18 words concerning the Comforter "I will not leave you comfort less: I will come to you." There's always great comfort in the presence of God. And ultimately there will be a wonderful comfort when we come to Him. Somebody said to us - Percy is at rest - it was a simple statement - I just felt so thankful for it. Separated from all the anguish, turmoil and struggle of life, he was at rest because he committed his life to God. When he set out in this ministry it was a commitment - 100%, he left everything behind...that's the only way it works. This is a big loss to us: as far the ministry is concerned it's immeasurable. I can't use any other word. We just wonder about the future, because of how it leaves us, but all we can do is go forward with faith in God, possessing this simple faith that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, forever, and the One who has met our need, He will meet our need.

I think of the vision Percy had as a young man, of the harvest field. And we know that still the Lord can prevail on the hearts and minds of young people to see the need of the harvest. Mark 10:29. What would be open to them in the future...and He spoke about hem doing this for the gospel's sake. I believe that was Percy's endeavor what he did was for the gospel's sake. There's a little hymn that we sing - we don't sing it too often - it's directed to the ministry really - it repeats the words "forget them not" and speaks of this noble band. Amongst those verses it just says "no selfish quest have they" ..that typifies any true minister of the gospel. That's how it was with Percy: no selfish quest had he.

Thinking of the apostle Paul - he contended for many things, as any servant of God does. Any servant of God suffers for the way they choose, for what they have to contend for in the world and in the Kingdom, that's just how it is. I thought of Paul speaking like he did as he took the gospel forth. I Corinthians 9:22 he said, "to the weak became I as weak" and being made all things to all men. Some people have that capacity of course, they don't mind as we say "playing to the crowd" but Paul was willing for God's work in his life, that God could mold him, that he could be made all things to all men. Whatever was asked of him, he did it for the gospel's sake.

John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled. Ye believe in God, believe also in me." I am grateful the Lord has a future for those that believe in Him. Jesus brought peace and he spoke about peace. John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." He spoke about this peace that He gave John 14:27, not as the world gives. It means everything to us in this service, in this ministry, and in this life to experience the comfort and the peace of God in the things that we face. I thought about him when he returned again from the resurrection, and I think you would find it three times in John 20, "peace be unto you." I'm very grateful that in the agitations of life we can prove the peace of God.

We sing the words in hymn 343 about God's "urgent call" to service. Laborers are few. Percy found a place of service wherever he was. He was a shepherd of the sheep. I appreciated very much that hymn that has been chosen that we sang at the beginning of our service about the shepherd of the sheep. "Was there e'er so kind a Shepherd...There is no place where earth's sorrows are more felt than up in Heaven. There is no place where earth's failing have such kindly judgment given." It's talking about the mercy of God. Percy and I worked closely together, and I knew him as a merciful man. I think of his understanding and compassion, and appreciation of people, that these words express. A number of the younger workers had some of their early years with Percy - the reason was that Percy could relate to them. He learned through experiences of life. Percy could always relate to them in their lot because of the experiences he faced in his first days. He was always a brother of compassion and understanding.

When Percy first went into this ministry one of the older men he was with first quickly summed him up - he said he was a shepherd with a shepherd's heart. he meant such a lot to us in this kingdom. It's a huge, huge loss for us. Such things are not replicated simply or easily. We're grateful for the work of God and what was manifest in him. 1 Corinthians 12:7 this expression about this one and selfsame Spirit...and what that selfsame Spirit did for Percy it can do for you and it can do for me.

The family was instrumental in choosing the hymn we're going to sing at the graveside..it seems very appropriate. "May we united stand, hand clasped in loving hand, Thy faithful loyal band til breaking of the day." It can only go well with us, as we stand united - united with God's will and plan for our lives and His purpose for us. United one to another. We are grateful for a time like this when our hearts are softened. We could say more. There's a grief that we naturally feel, but the Lord has a future for us - for each of us- and we'd like to be faithful in filling that place; understanding what it is to minister to others, to be guided and directed in faith, as our brother Percy was.

The last two verses of hymn 349 from RL Allan and Sons "Hymns Old and New" were sung. The family, relatives and the workers then gathered at Clodoch churchyard for the interment, where Percy's father and a number of relatives have been laid to rest.

Hymn 370 was sung at the graveside "Til breaking of the Day"

George da Santos

I'll read some verse from John 17:1-6 and 22-26. I know that Percy wouldn't want the focus to be on him today. He gave his life to represent the Lord Jesus, so if Percy could speak today he would want us to focus on Jesus. As we do this our ties with the One that Percy represented will be stronger and Percy's mission will be accomplished. I've worked with Percy, often at preps, and in a few tent missions. like his master, Percy wasn't one to save himself. He went beyond the call of duty, he went the second mile. This was what Jesus was doing here in John 17 - not focusing on Himself, but on those He was leaving behind. That was Percy too. The theme in John 17 is unity. We're sad here today, but it's going to unite us more in this worthy cause.

George da Santos closed in prayer.

Refreshments were served in the Ewyas Harold Memorial Hall.


My Questions

How in the world can the WORKERS preach that Jesus Christ was not good, evil, a sinner and reject him as the perfect spotless lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world and still call themselves Christians?

Peter Liddle's lie: "He said that no one is good, not even himself. No one is good but my Father in Heaven."

What the Bible actually says:

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Notice how Jesus said that God is good. Jesus Christ never said that he was not good.

Also notice how Jesus Christ said that God is good. Jesus Christ did not say "No one is good but my Father in Heaven." as Peter Liddle misquoted and twisted it.

Jesus Christ rhetorically asked the man why he was calling him/Jesus good. Raymond Rollings, their first worker to speak at the funeral managed to quote four words from the Bible properly and said that Jesus Christ said "I am the good Shepherd." Here Jesus clearly says of himself that he is good! And Ben Crompton also properly quotes the same four words of Jesus Christ saying he is the good Shepherd. Because these 2x2 workers don't know God, these ignorant 2x2 cult workers contradict each other in the same preaching service.

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

And also notice that the workers don't believe that entering into life involves keeping the commandments of God. I recently asked a former 2x2 cult member who had attended the workers' meetings for over 52 years if he had ever heard workers teaching that people should keep the ten commandments/ They said they had never, ever heard this preached! So why would workers pretend to believe half of a verse in the Bible, but not the other half? Simply because they want to twist the Bible to gain a following (and money). Evidently they have no interest in people entering into eternal life with God nor getting to know God and understand the Bible. You can flat out show them plain things in the Bible, and yet they will refuse to change. They don't have the spirit of truth. They don't desire truth in their heart.

Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Interestingly these workers badmouth Jesus Christ and twist the scripture without any qualms of doing so. If Jesus Christ were present they would do the same. And sadly their followers probably didn't even bat an eye at their put down of God.

Some may slay Peter Liddle's slander of God was a slipup. But that's clearly not the case. You could not say Jesus Christ is not good and still call him Lord. In fact, if Jesus Christ were there, and Peter Liddle called him Lord, Jesus would probably respond with:

Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

I write this because Peter Liddle and his coworkers including Ben Crompton don't teach their UK followers to obey the commandments of God.

Clearly the followers are not God's sheep. The Bible teaches:

Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Anybody who was a Christian would object to a self-professed ignorant preacher maligning God at a funeral. They certainly wouldn't keep attending meetings where this drivel is presented as "gospel".

Sadly, the workers also say that no weapon formed against a servant of God will prosper. And here Percy took his own life. The scripture they even quote in their service proves according to scripture that they are not servants of God.

Ignorant and Apathetic 2x2 FRIENDS

The FRIENDS are afraid of the WORKERS and their threats. For example, read this email by a sister worker in the US who was threatened by male worker who she claims raped her. Sister Worker Email

What in the world are the FRIENDS going to do about WORKERS condoning suicide and comparing Percy to Godly men in the Bible? Are they going to just accept it when their children commit suicide also? Are they going to say, "Well, we believe Jesus Christ was evil, so we'll just accept the workers and our children do evil too." If so, then they are responsible for their own children's suicides too.

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