Punishment

2x2 punishment for disobeying God. How does God punish 2x2s for badmouthing him and teaching lies in his name? How do we know if God is disciplining us?

Psa_119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

Have you every beed lied about. Or have you seen a 2x2 telling lies to Christians to try to seduce them into the cult? God doesn't want us to go about getting revenge. Vengeance is Gods. So is God asleep? How does God punish people for telling lies and deceiving Christians and poor children and people the 2x2 workers sexually molest and cover it up?

Punishment and Sin

I have wondered some of these things. I know God sees everything. I know God feels our pain when people lie to us and deceive us. I know God is not dead. So, how does God handle things? I know that telling lies and sexually abusing children is wrong, and that these things are sin. So what is the punishment from God for sin? Where is the punishment for the 2x2s living, preaching and promoting sin?

I know that when I was a worker, and even though I believed I was doing God's will, that I didn't feel good about myself. And I knew I was missing something, but could not put my finger on it.

Blindness as Punishment

The Bible speaks about blindness, spiritual blindness. Being blind would not be a fun thing. I enjoy being able to see. When we lie to ourselves or accept other's lies, then it blinds us and hides the truth from us.

Self Punishment

Self punishment or berating ourselves does not take away sin. There is no Biblical support for this.

The Obvious Punishments of Sin

The penalty of supporting preachers with false doctrine is the immorality and influence of immorality that goes along with it.

If you go to a church that marries people living in adultery, then you can expect people who promote adultery to influence your kids.

If you go to a church that promotes homosexuality, then you can expect your kids to be encouraged in homosexuality.

If you go to a church where the ministers forbid marriage and covers up child sexual abuse, then you can expect your kids to be sexually abused and that it would be covered up.

You can say "That happens in every church" (child sexual abuse, adultery, fornication etc). Does it? Have you gone through all the churches and seen child sexual abuse covered up? I haven't. Do you believe that what you or your church believes does not affect your life? If so, then why bother claiming to believe in God? If beliefs are benign, then you believe your belief is benign, so what good then is believing?

God is Not Mocked

Gen_1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen_1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gal_6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

If you plant wild oat seed, what do you think comes up? Broccoli? Cotton? This is why they call it wild oat seed. The seed is named after the plant it produces and it's fruit. It's seed remains in it. God is the one responsible for making wild oat seeds produce wild oats.

If you think that you can hide promotion of homosexuality, promotion of rebellion, promotion of child sexual abuse, promotion of cults etc and not be affected, then I believe you are going to be disappointed. I don't think you are going to reach your expected end.

If you think what goes on in your church doesn't matter, then why not join a witch's coven?

If you think that your church is no worse than any other church, then why would you believe you are the only ones going to heaven? Do you believe that your faith is dead and it doesn't matter what you believe in and that other people's faith is dead?

What do you believe the following verses mean?

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
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