Praying for Natural Things

Praying for Natural Things

As a 2x2 I was taught to not pray for NATURAL things. I was taught that I should pray for SPIRITUAL things like wisdom or a testimony for Sunday morning meeting.

Natural and Spiritual - Defining Terms

Please remember that I try to CAPITALIZE 2x2 jargon to indicate definition. For example WORKER means a 2x2 preacher or a 2x2 WORKER or a worker of iniquity, not someone who does the work of God or a Faith Mission worker.

A physical object which can be touched, tasted, handled, smelled, seen
Anything of this world that WORKERS don't care about.
The 2x2 term refering to ideas taught by WORKERS which pertain to the SPIRITUAL parts of their religion such as: obeying the WORKERS, teaching the WORKERS rules

I don't think I did a great job of explaining what "SPIRITUAL" means to 2x2s, but it will have to do for now. Trying to define what certain words meant to me as a 2x2 can be difficult.

Not Praying for Natural Things - Example

When I was a 2x2 and Everett Swanson was in the Gresham, OR FIELD, I had a small yellow motorbike that my grandparents got for me. Everett told me that I wasn't to pray for gas if I was low on gas going home. He said that God doesn't care or wouldn't make the gas last until you got home.

Everett brought up an interesting point about his faith. Does God care about natural things like gasonline in the tank of a scooter that is used to get someone home?

Things Natural, Prayer and God

There are several stories that come to mind now about how God did miracles to show that he is God and that he cares about us. In fact the more that I think about this topic, the more stories in the Bible that I can find. In fact, Everett's ideas are so ridiculous now, they are crazy. Yes, I believe God cares about natural things and here's why: The Bible teaches that God cares. You cannot believe in the Bible and believe that God doesn't care about things of this earth. You could argue that God didn't care because I wasn't a believer at the time, but to Everett, I was a BELIEVER, a 2x2. It was shortly after that I went into the work. Kids will follow people who have answers, and other people weren't giving me answers.

Natural Things Like Oil, Widows

Is oil a natural thing? According to the 2x2 definition and common person's defintion, oil is a natural thing.

2Ki 4:1 Now there cried a certain woman of the wives of the sons of the prophets unto Elisha, saying, Thy servant my husband is dead; and thou knowest that thy servant did fear the LORD: and the creditor is come to take unto him my two sons to be bondmen. And Elisha said unto her, What shall I do for thee? tell me, what hast thou in the house? And she said, Thine handmaid hath not any thing in the house, save a pot of oil. Then he said, Go, borrow thee vessels abroad of all thy neighbours, even empty vessels; borrow not a few. And when thou art come in, thou shalt shut the door upon thee and upon thy sons, and shalt pour out into all those vessels, and thou shalt set aside that which is full. So she went from him, and shut the door upon her and upon her sons, who brought the vessels to her; and she poured out. And it came to pass, when the vessels were full, that she said unto her son, Bring me yet a vessel. And he said unto her, There is not a vessel more. And the oil stayed. Then she came and told the man of God. And he said, Go, sell the oil, and pay thy debt, and live thou and thy children of the rest.

This story brings out how God cares about widows who ask for help. It shows how God used the prophet Elisha to keep a widows sons from becoming bondmen.

Are Birds Natural Things? God Cares About Birds

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

I thing this passage shows really clearly that God cares. God cares about our fears. God cares about our fear of people who could kill us. God cares about what we believe. God cares about helping us. He cares about helping others. God cares about threats of violence. God cares about whether we go to heaven or hell. God cares about sparrows. God knows all that is going on. God cares more about NATURAL things than uou, me or anyone else. God knows the number of all the hairs of our head. Who keeps track of this besides God? Who could keep track of it?

Natural Things - Why It's Important to Believe God Cares

I think it's important to believe that God does care about natural things. In the last verse of the passage above, Jesus Christ says "Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. Knowing that God cares about me alleviates my fear. God commands me to not fear people which can kill the body but cannot kill my soul. And 2x2s use fear to contol people. This is another example of why 2x2 WORKERS cannot preach the gospel of Jesus Christ because the OVERSEERS and WORKERS and ELDERS manipulation of people would be weakened if their FRIENDS believed God cares. If we don't believe that God cares about natural things, then the Bible cannot be true. If we believe that God does care, and the Bible is true, then that means that Everett Swanson was telling me lies about God and what God cares about.

Natural Things - A Challenge

If you are a 2x2, what do the OVERSEERS and WORKERS teach in your area? Ask them and write their teachings down. I challenge you to share your findings. You can put it in the form below. If the WORKERS and the FRIENDS are the LIGHT OF THE WORLD (as they claim), then why do you think they hide their beliefs and don't openly share them?

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