Before the Meetings

Before Meetings -The Situation or Contect

Before meetings, you have two workers living in someone else's home. They don't have jobs. They have to act nice whether they are nice or not. They depend on someone else providing a car, home and food for them.

Praying for a Message

And they get down on their knees and pray for a message. And they read their Bibles. And they find some message. And this message goes through a filter of fear saying "Is this an acceptable message?" "Is this something that my companion would approve of?"

Being "Turned In" or Reported on

Did you know that if a sermon that a WORKER preaches on is not acceptable that the other WORKER will report this to the OVERSEER? And did you know that WORKERS plot together to kick WORKERS out for no good reason if they don't like what a WORKER preaches?

The Message and Fears

So the WORKERS who feel this social pressure cave under fear and choose a MESSAGE to preach that twists what the Bible actually says so they can preach an ACCEPTABLE MESSAGE that the OVERSEER, WORKERS, their COMPANION, ELDERS and the FRIENDS want to hear. There is a lot of pressure from a lot of people to maintain the status quo in what is preached in GOSPEL MEETINGS and SUNDAY MORNING MEETINGS and SPECIAL MEETINGS and CONVENTIONS. I know the pressure, because I was a WORKER. I used to go through this. But I got to the point (I was young and naive enough to believe the OVERSEER and the WORKERS were good people) where I started saying things in GOSPEL MEETINGS and CONVENTIONS that they didn't want to hear.


And then my companion Craig Jacobsen reported me to Howard Mooney. And they arranged for Howard Mooney and myself to HAVE A VISIT. You know how those VISITS go. It was one-sided with Howard Mooney telling me to "not turn to the right or to the left." Which was OVERSEER talk for "toe the line young man or we're going to kick you out." It was like the mafia.

I was so numb from the stress, that I didn't figure out his cryptic, parable and just kept right on preaching what I thought was true. The scripture that I hung on to was the prophet who was told not to eat or drink before he went back home. He was to obey God. But instead, he listened to some other guy and got killed by a lion because he disobeyed God. I didn't want to get killed by a lion (so to speak), so I ignored Craig Jacobsen and Howard Mooney. I saw that I fell out of favor with the other WORKERS. I was no longer the popular youngest worker on the OREGON STAFF. And it was too much for my health and I didn't know what was going on in my body. So Craig Jacobsen dropped me off at my folks place to recover.

The Message and Pleasing Others

In case you didn't know. Workers try to please ELDERS because OVERSEERS talk with ELDERS to see whether they should put the older companion back in that field. They want to know if the match of this WORKER to that field was a hit or a flop. It's a popularity thing. And this is why there is so much politics in the 2x2 cult. And the ELDERS are afraid of the WORKERS because they don't want the meeting in their home to be moved to someone else's home who toes the line better than they do. They don't want to suffer the embarrassment.

Why You Shouldn't Go to Meetings

So this is what happens before meetings. It destroys people's soul. If you want to destroy people's soul, then go to meetings and get a message from Satan by WORKERS who are too afraid to speak the Truth.

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