Getting Out

Getting out of the cult was a long process. Looking back on things, there were many experiences and people that helped me to get out of the 2x2 cult. I will list as many as I can remember and sort through them later.

When I lived in Montana, Everett Swanson with his heavy-handed ways and ridicule of my "questioning things" helped me to see that the workers had no answers for practical questions like "How do we know God is with us and not with Christians?" While at the time I caved in to his emotional and peer pressure from him and Vernon Joyce (his companion that year), after they moved to another field, I began rethinking it all. The backlash of heavy-handed lies only later helped me to leave the cult. I knew they didn't have answers to simple questions and their heavy-handed disapproval of me asking questions simply encouraged me later and helped me to see that they feared simple questions.

Ralph Sines helped me leave the cult also. While in Montana I asked him about the illegal business activities of some of the 2x2s doing construction. His unquestioning support of their illegal ways helped me to see that he didn't care about the laws of the land and the "gospel meeting" prayers for the leaders of our country were just for show.

In Oregon, Lloyd Njos showed me some papers marked "confidential" (in red stamped lettering) that told how William Irvine started the movement. This was funny to me (confidential??? LOL) at the time, and I ridiculed it because I felt I knew the "truth". In looking back, the problem wasn't that I believed in some truths (I believed some things in the Bible), but in that I didn't know Jesus Christ, didn't believe in Him and the lies I believed were killing me.

In about 2000 or 2001, Donna Butler invited me to some seminars of Bill Gothard. This opened my eyes to righteousness, and I began to see that Christians were way more righteous than me. I was humbled and humiliated at my poor righteousness in comparison to these people. I began to see that the Bible was intended for daily living and was very relevant. This was new to me.

Harold Bennett helped me leave the cult. When I met with him and his companion in Salem, he may have thought that I was going to offer for the work again, or maybe he just wanted another free meal. But when I asked him about his 2x2 teachings on divorce and remarriage, his answers and haste to escape the table left me to realize that he was secretive about his teachings and didn't want them exposed to the day of light. His excuse for not telling me his teachings were 1) I was too young to understand 2) It was too complicated and 3) (don't remember 3rd reason not). Most people know that I'm sharper than the average Joe, and for this reason, Harold shot himself and his for-profit religious business in the foot with his put-downs. My thanks to Harold Bennett for revealing that he was afraid to tell what he really believed on divorce and remarriage. This showed me another tactic of the workers was to put people down instead of answering simple questions.

Dave Nealon helped me get out by telling me not to read and pray with my friend Phu. That was a clear contradiction to the Word of God. It took something huge to shake up my life. Even then, it took me about 1 1/2 years to leave.

Linda Brist helped me get out when I asked her if I should obey the workers or God when the workers were telling me to do something against the Bible. She said that I should obey the workers. This wasn the final lynch-pin to me getting out. When someone has been in the cult this long, and completely contradicts the Bible, setting themselves up above God, it was really obvious. This helped me to get out of the cult. I repeat however, "Getting out of the cult did not save me. Making Jesus Christ my Saviour and repenting of my sins, putting faith in God - this saved me. God saved me."

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