Bearing Fruit

The term "bearing fruit" has been changed in meaning by the 2x2 cult to mean "gaining more PROFESSING people" instead of the fruit of the Spirit. As you might imagine, for people who believe the WORKERS definition, the Bible appears to take on a whole different message.

For example, take this scripture:

Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

The 2x2 OVERSEERS, WORKERS and ELDERS take this to mean that unless you abide in the WORKERS, you will not bear fruit (get other people to PROFESS). Now if you think about this, it will explain a lot of things. Let me reword this. If you don't really believe the WORKERS, you won't bring people to MEETINGS and see them PROFESS. And let me word a corollary: If you aren't bringing people to MEETINGS and seeing them PROFESS, then it is because you don't really believe the WORKERS are the only true servants of God. If you think about this for a while, it will help you to see why 2x2s don't mind deceiving others, in order to get them to PROFESS.

This explains why OVERSEERS keep track of who and how many people PROFESS in the WORKER's MEETINGS on his staff of WORKERS.

This explains why WORKERS who don't have people PROFESS in their MEETINGS for years in a row are canned by the OVERSEER.

This explains why ELDERS who don't bring people to MEETINGS may lose their MEETINGS.

This explains why PROFESSING boys and girls invite people to MEETINGS and lie to them to try to get them to PROFESS.

This explains why the FRIENDS see people who quit attending MEETINGS as "dry branches to be taken out and burned" and despise those who are Christians.

This explains why the 2x2s are performance based and don't care about faith and love from the heart.

While many 2x2 beliefs are things they say they believe, this is one of the beliefs that they follow because they have to purge, discredit anyone who fails to keep attending MEETINGS.

Again, this is a critical and fundamental belief of the 2x2 religion.

Over and Over

Over and over again, I have heard the WORKERS and ELDERS describe how that only by abiding in the WAY (them) can people ever bring people to MEETINGS or remain PROFESSING.

When I was living at my friend Phu's place, Milo Wicks came over and told me that only by abiding in the vine could be saved. He emphasized and made clear several times that we needed to obey the WORKERS (Dave Nealon in this case) or we would be like unfruitful branches. I got the message plain and clear.

No Context

You might ask "How can they twist this so much because the true meaning of this scripture is about abiding in Jesus Christ and his word? And isn't the Bible clear about the fruit of the Spirit?

Yes, of course it is. But the WORKERS don't use context of scripture. They just view Jesus Christ's "stories" as some analogies for their teachings/doctrines. They don't care about the meaning of Jesus' words, they just care about what they can twist it into. They just add to or take away. This is what people do in recruiting people to PROFESS, they just show them how to add to or take away from God's word to get them to do what they want them to do.

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