Dormant Beliefs

2x2 beliefs may appear to go dormant as formerly professing people go through a divorce, remarry or date someone. Later in life these beliefs may pop back up to the surface as the person goes through another major life change like: relative professes, family member dies or maybe no apparent trigger at all.

So what? What does this mean to anyone and what affect does it have on anyone's life. Well, to the individual married to them, this means a lot. And after hearing the same pattern over and over, I felt I needed to write this page and warn people. Sometimes ideas sound good until we hear the experiences of others.

Dormant Volcanoes

Some areas of the earth's geography are classified as dormant volcanoes. These are locations that once erupted, but have not erupted for quite some time. They are often located on a geological fault in the earth's crust where two large masses are moving in opposite directions and massive amounts of force can build up. There may be minor tremors in these areas of conflicting masses. The potential exists that the volcano may erupt. It may erupt suddenly with little warning or may erupt slowly. The devastation from an eruption can be very damaging and in some cases deadly to people nearby. This is the parallel to dormant beliefs.

God Cares - God's Warnings

God knows that to be unequally yoked is disaster. There are two things that commonly happen. Someone loses their faith in God to meet the level of the unbeliever or they brake up. The children of Israel were to marry people who believed in God so that they would not adopt the beliefs of the other "gods".

Typically there is someone sent to warn people. Jonah went to Ninevah, Samuel went to Saul etc

God Warns

When we reject the warnings of God, we experience failure. Trials, obstacles, persecution will ensue and our failure to obey God will result in loss. Warnings are timely and acting on them too late can result in great loss. Just professing to have faith in God will not save from loss. The Bible tells us that obedience is better than sacrifice. Here is some scripture that teaches this:

1Sa_15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

Scripture regarding loss from failure to obey God:

Luk_6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Unbelievers Marrying 2x2s

Some people observe a few "Christians" and say "Even they are a bunch of hypocrites, saying one thing and doing another".

Psa_116:11 I said in my haste, All men are liars.

My reply is "Yes, that may be true for some or many, but it doesn't make God's love any less or make God's warnings not true." The Bible is profitable for instruction and can save a lot of heart ache. If you are in this case, I encourage you to put learn from God to prevent more problems in the future. The book of Proverbs may be a good start for you.

1Ti_4:8 For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.
2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Divorce Rates

Divorce rates in America have stopped rising. Only because fewer people get married and more just live together out of wedlock. With a high divorce rate, and then dating and marrying someone in the cult, then their are massive odds are against you. Some try to prolong the marriage through the strength of their pride and by compromising their beliefs about God and this leads to greater disaster.

Dormant Beliefs Come Alive - Sudden Separation - Story 1

Years ago, a woman wrote to me telling how her husband of many years had suddenly left her without apparent warning and was going back to meetings. That's it. That's all I remember. She wrote and I didn't respond because I didn't know what to say. I feel bad for this. I could have just wrote back with "I'm sorry", but I didn't. Already had a lot that I was going through myself. But the story remains. The woman was married to a formerly professing 2x2 man who up and left her to go back to meetings. I think the moral is clear here. If you marry someone who has gone to meetings and joined, their is a probability that they will leave you to return to the meetings. Now if both were professing, then they probably wouldn't leave you, but you would both be living under the curse of the cult.

Formerly Dormant Beliefs Result in Sudden Separation - Story 2

So life goes on, and I get another website contact. From another woman who husband left her.

He went to meetings as a youth and had professed. He met this gal and they started dating. He had hidden from her while they were dating what his religion was and his 2x2 beliefs. He continued going to meetings. Then they got married. He still continued going to meetings. Ok, you may say "Those aren't dormant beliefs", and I say "They were not active beliefs, but kept secret and not acted on." So his beliefs weren't as dormant as some, but they were not acted on. While the 2x2s in general don't believe in marrying outsiders, he married her anyway.

Life goes on. Then one day, she went to a Sunday morning meeting with him. Weird meeting, eerie silence before the meeting. And then she found out that she was not allowed to take part in the meetings. She was really upset. She confronted him about his religion not allowing her to take part as a Christian. From this she found out that her husband and the friends believed she was going to hell because she wasn't one of them. She was really upset, hurt and felt deceived and lied to, that he had believed this all this time, never told her and married her.

Divorce ensues. They still talk occasionally.

Third Story

In the works right now, and if this go sour, I will have names and details.

The Moral of Dormant Beliefs

People leave the 2x2 religion and often go back. There are many things that can trigger their dormant beliefs:

  • they have a child
  • their child is taken to meeting by a professing relative
  • their child professes
  • they lose their job
  • they move
  • they go to a church building with their spouse
  • a service at a funeral or friend
  • one of their relatives professes
  • one of their parents die
  • a worker visits them
  • they go to a funeral of one of the friends of the workers

Many of these events can trigger emotional feelings and make the person very unstable. Their spouse may believe them to become irrational, irritable, devoid of feeling, unloving, cruel etc. The old memories of the (former or otherwise) 2x2 (even if painful and abusive) and their real beliefs cause them to return to meetings. When they want to take part in meetings again, the workers may do many things. Instances vary. They may advise them to leave their spouse. They may advise them to return to their previous spouse. I really don't care what they do, the end results are often the same. Radical changes in their life often ensue. Spouses can become horribly bitter and angry and frustrated. Because of the nature of their beliefs and no morality of God, they make radical changes to relationships that have gone on for years. They may have lied, adopted their girlfriend or spouse's religion or whatever to end up in their relationship, but now, their 2x2 beliefs are acted on and the violent changes result in a lot of hurt. People may have heart attacks, ulcers, headaches and many other symptoms induced by huge amounts of stress. Violent outbursts of anger, vulgar language, cursing, swearing, physical attacks, beatings may ensue as the violence emerges. The hatred and conflict stored up for years violently erupts leaving behind huge wounds in people that had loved and cared for them as they felt best. And the statements that they "don't believe in separation or divorce" suddenly no longer apply. A lot of confusion results from the spouse's of the 2x2s are they go searching on the Internet and that's how I meet these hurt people and hear their stories.

Fleeing and Fleeting Friends

At times of separations and divorces, the spouse may search for answers from father, mother, siblings and the friends who reassured them that the relationship was OK and of God. After all, "they said they believed in God." But where are these "friends" now? Their empty reassurances are not confirmed by their experience. And their friends are not the ones being separated from or divorced, so what do they care? The realization that you may have been used by friends to justify their own wishful thinking adds to the pain. All the denied warnings and memories of people that were ridiculed and mocked come flooding back as their theories don't hold up. Rejected counsel and warnings appear valid now, but it is too late to act on them.

Workers Teachings

I would have to say that the older brothers, overseers, workers and the elders have more understanding and compassion than fake "Christians" who claim that it is OK to marry people in the cult. They have see the stories and know the outcome, which is why they often don't allow people to take part in meeting if they are going to marry an outsider. Many people blame the workers for waiting so long to tell the dating couple that they shouldn't marry unequally, but I believe the workers are hoping the relationship will brake up early so they don't have to say a word, their previous beliefs and counsel will be reinforced by the experience and the people can gently learn on their own first. Also, warning a couple (especially when they are "physically involved") isn't going to make them popular.

Girlfriend Religion

Getting someone to change their profession while in lust with each other is not lasting. It is as times like these that girlfriend religion falls short and has no power to "save". See Girlfriend Religion

The vain belief that someone can just "profess to have faith in God but not obey God" falls hollow.

Scripture About Storms

Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

The point Jesus Christ is clearly making is that just calling him "Lord" but not doing what he tells us to do will not keep our "house" from getting destroyed by storms. And many find that separations (nasty or otherwise) have destroyed their lives. For many, it takes years (if ever) to recover. Many never trust again, and many come to hate God and/or "religion" and blame this for ruining their marriage.

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Marriage Problems

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Divorce Preparations

Abusive Relationships

Spousal Abuse

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