2x2 Founder William Irvine

One of the biggest lies of the 2x2s is their claim that the started on the shores of Galilee. Historical evidence shows William Irvine was their founder. The strongest evidence comes from the Bible showing the 2x2 beliefs are not of God.

2x2 beliefs match the beliefs of William Irvine and don't match the beliefs or teachings of Jesus Christ.

While the workers deny William Irvine as their founder, they cannot point to any other figure who was involved in their religion before William Irvine in about 1897. There are no previous letters, no previous workers' list, no previous newspaper articles or anything prior to this time.

As a result of their lack of evidence, they make outrageous claims thinking that they can sidestep this major issue. However their lack of understanding shows they don't know what they are talking about. I will go through their lies and show how their lies show their current error.

Started on the Shores of Galilee?

Some workers tell people that they were started on the shores of Galilee. This is really crazy. Jesus Christ was a Jew, who kept the commandments of God, observed the feasts of the Lord and preached that people should repent of their sins (sin is transgression of law) and have faith in God. Jesus Christ had faith in God, and this faith goes back to the time of creation, the first 7 days of creation in fact

In claiming that they were started on the shores of Galilee (insinuating Jesus was their founder), they expose themselves. Jesus Christ never started a new religion on the shores of Galilee. In fact, he rebuked people for their ignorance of the law and the prophets and pointed out he was fulfilling what the law and prophets had foretold.

If you know much about the workers, you also know they don't believe in keeping the ten commandments. Jesus Christ kept the ten commandments and taught them to others. And when he died, his will went into effect. His will is the law of God written on our hearts as foretold by prophet Jeremiah 31:31+

So there was no new religion every started on the shores of Galilee by Jesus. It was a continuation of faith in God by Jesus the Christ.

From the Beginning?

Some workers have made their claim that their fellowship is "from the beginning". This reply that their fellowship is from the beginning is often given in response to the question "When did your religion start?"

It's an answer full of guile. The question about when they started is based on the word "religion" begin about their organization. And then they use the word "fellowship". As if their "fellowship"/organization was from the beginning. Their answers is full of guile or disingenuous at best.

When you read Genesis 1 and on, you will find no fellowship or religion started like the 2x2s. When you read about Adam, he never listened to homeless workers sent out in pairs by a man called an "overseer". Adam never went to "meetings".

And further in Genesis, we read about a very famous man, Noah. Noah built an ark. You never read about Noah listening to homeless workers sent out by overseers or going to meetings. They didn't exist then.

And then Abraham. Does anyone doubt Abraham was saved? Do you read about homeless workers sent out in pairs to save Abraham? Nope. No meetings for Abraham either. Abraham built an altar to the Lord. Abraham was saved by faith and the grace of God. That is not something the workers teach and believe in.

Gen 26:2  And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of: Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father; And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Abraham kept God's charge, his commandments, God's statues and his laws. The workers don't believe in doing that. Their "fellowship" is not with God, nor with Abraham.

The Workers' Real Founder

The workers are founded on previous workers and not on Jesus Christ. The workers believe that a "revelation" that "they are the only true servants of God" is the foundation of their church. I believe the founder of the first workers in about 1897 was Satan who gave William Irvine his deception and lie.

Arnold Blonke Glen Valley Convention 8/4/88 "We (the workers) are continuing the work on the foundation."

The only way I began to understand the beliefs and traditions of the 2x2s was to read about William Irvine. I can see after reading about him that the 2x2s built their religion around his word.

The 2x2s foundation is on what they call a "revelation", but it is actually a delusion. They believe that the revelation that the workers are the only true servants of God is the foundation on which their church is built.

Of course, they take some scripture to try to justify this. If they only knew what this scripture meant, they would feel like fools for doing so. (I will explain the scripture after I tell you their delusion.)

Here is the scripture that the workers use to "explain" why this "revelation" that "they are the true servants of God" is the foundation of their church:

Mat 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

You might be scratching your head now, saying to yourself "What???". Ok, let me explain. There was some doubt among many people as to who Jesus Christ was. And this was because they didn't know who the Father was, so they didn't know who Jesus Christ was/is. (see John 6:45, John 8:19). So Jesus Christ asks Peter, "But whom say ye that I am?"

So in a similar way (although quite perverted) the overseer's workers want to know who other people think they are (quite conceited I might add), and "ask" people "Do you believe we are the only true servants of God".

So now Peter says to Jesus Christ (not any workers for crying out loud), "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." Which means, from the Jewish perspective, that Jesus Christ is God. Wow! So Peter knows who Jesus Christ really is, God the Saviour.

So now Jesus Christ responds to Peter based on Peter's understanding of who Jesus Christ is with , "Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.".

In other words, the heavenly Father has made himself known to Peter, and Peter believes on God so he knows that Jesus Christ is God. Jesus Christ says so, that Peter knows God.

Now, to continue, Jesus Christ makes a statement about HIMSELF, when he says, "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

What in the world is Jesus Christ talking about? Well, the workers say that the "rock" that the church is built on is....ok, keep from laughing now...they believe the rock is the revelation that they are the only true servants of God! Ok, ridiculous. But go ahead, ask them. But you may be wondering, "What did Jesus Christ really mean? seeing how there were no "workers" and the workers twist is so radical.?"

First, ask yourself, what is the "rock"? or more specifically, "Who is the rock?" If you were a Jew, and knew the Old Testament, this is easy, as it was for Peter. If we have learned of the Father, then we know who Jesus Christ is..so let's learn of the Father.

The first instance of the rock is in Exodus 17:6.

Exo_17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

This is reference to Jesus Christ. Many drank of the rock, but they didn't know the rock. Who was smitten and water poured out?

Joh_19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

Ok, Jesus Christ is the rock. So I don't belabor the point and many lose attention in reading this point, let me summarize with : Jesus is saying that HE is the chief cornerstone, the rock on which the church is founded. And with this the apostles state evenly more plainly:

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

If you would like more scripture or details, just put your name and email and your questions in box below.

See also Willis Crane Letter justifying their false ministry started by William Irvine.

So in summary, the 2x2s believe that a revelation that they are the only true servants of God is the foundation of their religion. And this contrasts strongly with the teachings of Jesus Christ that HE is the cornerstone of the church. Again, the 2x2s teach something completely different than Jesus Christ and lead people to themselves instead of God.

2x2 Beliefs


Going 2x2

2x2 Founder

Jesus not God

No Church Buildings

Bun Heads

No Makeup

No Jewelery Rule

Workers R apostles?

Above Jesus Christ



Gospel 10s

Not Hirelings


One Fold

They are the Only Way

Marriage Forbidden



Attend Meetings

The Right Spirit

2x2 Gospel

2x2 righteousness

2x2 Way Changes

Workers Interpret

No Pants Rule

Personal Convictions

Must Go to Meetings


Must be 2x2


2x2 Rules

Bread and fruit of vine

Dying Ministry

Give Your Testimony




Worship Workers

Salvation by Workers

Controlling Myths

Workers Shouldn't Work

Workers Send to Hell



Deny yourself


Sunday AM Meetings


Twisted Scriptures

Taking Part

Way Perfect, people not

Workers not working

Testing Meetings

Sad feedback

Topics: Home    Salvation    Money    Conventions    2x2 Beliefs    Denominations    Sex Crimes    Overseers    Workers    Funerals    Exiting    Sin    Hymns    Professing    Health    Recruitment    Problems    Married    Meetings    Elders    Parents    Friends    Young Women    Teenagers    Letters    Stories    Holy Days    Love    Gospel    Warnings    Challenges    Bible    Ten Commandments    Covenants    Calendar    Satan    Matthew 18    Prayer    Baptism    Lists    Spirits    Evidence    Organization    FAQs    Bible Studies    Countries    Australia    Canada    Vietnam    States    Maine    Oregon    Texas    Percy Watkins    Chris Chandler    Darren Briggs    Jerome Frandle    Bill Denk    Leslie White    Message Boards    Government    Brad    Churches    Babes    Sermons    New    Christian Conventions    Disciples
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. - Jesus Christ speaking to Saul, see Act 26:18, see Salvation through Jesus Christ.
If you see ANY errors on this website, per Terms of Use, please report them immediately along with your contact information and evidence so that it can be verified. Or contact me through this form below.
Page Comment: (if you want me to respond to you, include email or phone)
Name: Email: