2x2s and the 2x2 Religion
The 2x2 religion or two by two religion is also called: "The Truth", "The Way", "The Faith" by the overseers, workers and the friends. In 1897 William Irvine, a FreeMason, started the 2x2 religion whose main current beliefs are homeless ministers who sell everything and give the money to them, ministers who travel in pairs, meetings in the home, and the eternal condemnation of all people who know about them but don't join. William Irvine was shoved out of leadership when he established overseers and currently they run the 2x2 organization.
Positive Identification of 2x2s
There are many things that positively identify members of the 2x2 denomination:
Disbelief in Jesus Christ
2x2s don't believe that Jesus Christ is God. This is a huge contradiction. They say they know and love God, but don't believe Jesus Christ is God. How can they know and love God if they don't know who he is and reject Him as God? Because they don't believe in Jesus Christ, as the Word of God made flesh (denial God came in flesh), they don't keep God's commandments. They reject the ten commandments of God written on their heart and minds. They reject the New Testament. The Bible warns us of this spirit of antichrist:
1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
1Jn_2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
All who fellowship with the 2x2s are fellowshipping with the spirit of antichrist.
Outward Appearance of the 2x2 Religion - A Simple House Church
The 2x2 religion tries to look like a simple house church, claiming to emulate the early disciples. However to someone who has gotten to know them and read and understood the first 4 gospels and the book of Acts etc, the 2x2 religion is nothing close to the early disciples.
The 2x2 religion is largely focused on the outward appearance of its members, who call themselves "the friends" which is short for "friends of the workers": women with hair in buns, dresses or skirts/no pants, no makeup, no jewelery, giving a "nice" testimony in their meetings and repeating what the workers tell them and men who relinquish their responsibility to God and instead obey their workers. The 2x2 religion is also focused on the inward condition of idolatry of and submission to their overseers and workers.
Services of 2x2 Religion
Two by twos meet on Sunday mornings (typically 10-11 AM or 10:30 to 11:30 AM) for one hour. They call them "Sunday Morning Meetings". They only meet in homes where the elder has been appointed by and approved by their local workers.
On Sunday evenings, 2x2s attend evening gospel meetings organized and run by the workers. The friends are expected to pay for the rental of the hall or give the workers money so they can pay for the rental of the hall.
You may see men and women (with buns and dresses or skirts - no pants) and children carrying Bible Bags containing their hymn book and Bible to their meetings.
During the mid-week, like WED or THU, 2x2s either attend another gospel meeting, again held by workers or will attend (in its place), a mid-week "Bible study which is run by Bible-study elders and typically follows a study guide printed out by their local "overseer".
After a meeting a worker may ask one of the friends of the workers (followers) if they can stay at their home for one to three days during the week (the workers are required by overseer to be homeless). You many see two men in dress shirts and ties or two women in dresses wearing their hair in buns show up at your 2x2 neighbor's house. They will most likely arrive in a car that they borrowed from a follower for the year (workers are forbidden by their overseer to own a car). The workers expect food, clothing, and to stay in followers' homes and money in compensation for their "work" of preaching for one-two hours per week and maintaining "order" in their overseer-appointed field.
Monthly, 2x2s may attend Union Meetings in place of their usual Sunday morning meeting. A "Union Meeting" is where one or more Sunday morning meetings may join together for a meeting. They have lists that they follow that tell them where to meet on which days.
Annually, 2x2s attend half or full day-long special meetings organized by overseers.
Annually, 2x2s attend a convention for 1-4 days (typically 3-4 days) which is held on convention grounds and paid for by collections from their followers.
2x2s also stand out at their funerals held by their ministers in pairs who when praying at funerals and their meetings use the words "thee", "thou" to refer to God.ie: "We thank thee that thou did ..."
2x2 Religion Founder
In 1897, William Irvine (a Freemason) started the religion whose main beliefs are homeless, uneducated ministers that go out two by two (hence name 2x2) who have sold everything and given it to him. This was part of William Irvine's "alpha" revelation. Later Mr Irvine allowed meetings in the home and also a hierarchy or classes followers: older brothers, overseers, workers, elders and the friends(short for "friends of the workers"). Eventually as new overseers gained power, they sidelined their founder William Irvine and rejected his latest "omega" revelations. William Irvine later died in Israel of throat cancer.
Greatest 2x2 Coverup - New Overseers Cover-up of Founder William Irvine
The newly appointed overseers covered up the history of their founder William Irvine. As part of their cover up, they kicked out all workers who would not cooperate in their concealment of how their religion started. They also devised replies to questions about William Irvine and their past. They also excommunicated all workers who supported William Irvine and later Edward Cooney. Even recently some workers deny their founder and claim "It was started on the shores of Galilee" or "It was from the beginning".
2x2 Publications of 2x2 Religion: Bible and Hymnal and Lists
As typical with cults, the leaders try to control the information presented to their followers. They have worked together with a business called RL Alan and Sons to print their own Bibles and Hymn Books.
In America, the 2x2s use a Hymnbook they've compiled from input from the overseers and workers, titled "Hymns Old and New" published for them by RL Allan and Sons which does the printing of their hymn book. They have had about 2-3 revisions.
The Bible largely used by 2x2s is about the 3rd revision of the King James translation. Using another Bible translation, other than the KJV has been largely discouraged or frowned on. The 2x2s also have their own version of the Bible printed by their own printer. This is important to them to keep out commentaries that are often posted in margins about salvation through faith in God by the grace of God. Their own version of the Bible is printed by RL Allan and Sons and is sold by followers who sell the books to the friends.
2x2 Workers Lists: Workers List, Special Meetings, Conventions
The overseersproduce at least two major lists each year. One is the annual workers' list which shows to everyone in their state where each worker has been appointed to be and with which companion and in which field for which year. This list is usually handed out at conventions to encourage convention attendance.
The overseers also produce The Special Meeting List. This list shows where Special Meetings will be held that year and the dates they are held.
Fundamental 2x2 Beliefs are Anti-Christian
The 2x2 religion is anti-Christian. Any of the followers that say to an overseer (or write in a letter) basically that "Salvation comes through faith in God by the grace of God." (and doesn't require going to the WORKERS' MEETINGS or PROFESSING through a WORKER) will promptly have their "privilege" of giving their testimony in a meeting removed. The overseers of the religion don't want any Christian ideas in their meetings being shared because they know it will influence people and they will lose their control over their followers. This is why new followers must not go to Christian churches and are expected to have regular Sunday Morning Meeting attendance. The 2x2 overseers around the world are in agreement on this. The 2x2 religion is universally in agreement that professing to believe that salvation comes through faith in God and by the grace of God is not allowed in their religion. They key here is they don't believe in anything greater than the idea that "they are the way" and all people drawn of God will come to their meetings.
Some overseers and workers do claim in "salvation by faith in God and by the grace of God", but in saying this, they refer to their god (I call the 2x2 god), that they have made up who requires all their other rules. The overseers and workers insist that the 2x2 religion is the one fold that Jesus Christ was talking about in John 10, and anyone called of God will go to meetings and profess through a worker if one is in their area. Some believe that somebody might possibly be saved by God, if somehow, a worker wasn't available. They believe they are the "one true church", and by deduction they believe that all others are going to hell.
I've Found 2x2s to be Liars According to their own Bible
Many people who claim to be Christians can notice a distinct difference between a 2x2 and someone who has faith in God. People who have faith in God can notice an absolute difference because the 2x2s (who claim to know God and be his chosen reject the ten commandments of God. John warns of these liars in the very book that 2x2s claim is the word of God:
1Jn_2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Also, 2x2s will not fellowship with people who have faith in God. The Bible says that people who claim to love God but hate their brothers are liars.
1Jn_4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
If you would ask a 2x2 to list the ten commandments, maybe 1 out of a 1000 could and even they would not even try to keep the ten commandments.
2x2's View of the Non-Professing, Outsiders, Strangers aka Infidels
The 2x2s believe they are the WAY (but ironically are not sure if they will go to heaven). They believe that their church is living by the sacrifice of their workers in being homeless, unmarried and going out in pairs as directed by their leaders who are called overseers or "the older brothers". They believe they are the kingdom of God, the remnant, the Truth, the Life, the Way and the one true Fold. They believe they (and their religion) are the only way going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell if they reject the workers faith. Many 2x2s believe that Jesus was the first 2x2, and that he started the cult, but they have no evidence, history or proof to support this belief. The 2x2s go to Sunday Morning Meetings, reject the holy day of God (the 7th day sabbath) and are known for blind faith in supposed celibate ministers going out in pairs and other rules of their own devising. And their man-devised teachings lead to lies about their founder, guile, deceit, hiding their beliefs from new recruits, flattery to new people attending meetings, fornication especially among young followers, adultery, rapes, molesting of children, child sexual abuse, harassment, illegal phone eavesdropping, brainwashing and many other sins. The 2x2s refer to all people who don't attend meetings and don't profess as "outsiders" or "strangers". They believe all paid preachers who preach in church-owned buildings are evil, of the devil and going to hell.
"THE FAITH" - A Secretive Cult - Court Judgment
During the sentencing of 2x2 overseer Jerome Frandle who was convicted and sentenced to jail for failure to report child sexual abuse by a worker on his staff. This quote was taken from page 16 of the transcripts of the sentencing of Jerome Frandle in Huron County, Bad Axe Michigan.
...On the other hand, during the course of the hearing it became very clear to the Court that this organization, which I believe is THE FAITH is a highly secretive organization. I don't know how the hierarchy operates on a day to day basis. I don't know whether or not Mr Frandle has participated in the removal and transfer of other people that may have been involved in this type of conduct. But I'm not assuming that he has. I'm pointing out for the record that we don't know. It's a very secretive and non-transparent organization
Obviously judge David B Herrington saw that the cult DOES have a name, they are an organization and they are very secretive and non-transparent. The masonic roots of William Irvine are showing.
Strict and Controlling
OVERSEERS forbid their WORKERS to marry. If they marry, they are immediately removed from the 2x2 WORK. WORKERS are forbidden to get educated. Attendance at a theological school or seminary will result in the WORKER being removed from the 2x2 WORK. WORKERS are forbidden to own a house or hut or car or even a motorcycle. The OVERSEERS want the WORKERS completely dependent on their approval for housing, food, clothing and transportation.
They are Against
The two by twos are commonly known by what they claim to be against. They reject Jesus Christ as creator of heaven and earth. They reject the commandments of Jesus Christ. They reject Jesus Christ as Lord and God (but allow idolatry of the OVERSEER and WORKERS). They reject the authority of Jesus Christ (but promote authority of OVERSEERS, WORKERS and their assigned ELDERS). They reject the Old Testament (God's Law on tablets of stone) and New Testament (God's law written on our hearts), but promote rules of their own making. They are against salaried preachers (unless it is their own OVERSEERS and WORKERS salary). Most WORKERS are against TVS (they used to be against the radio and are not against INTERNET). They are against building buildings in which to worship (unless is is adding to their home for a MEETING or constructing MEETING SHEDS for their own CONVENTION grounds).
Basic 2x2 Religion Organization and Hierarchy
The 2x2s are a cult organization with followers who put their trust in OVERSEERS and OLDER BROTHERS who rule over provinces or set states countries through the world.
These OLDER BROTHERS and OVERSEERS rule over larger geographical locations which are usually provinces or states. Each OVERSEER rules over a STAFF of WORKERS who are organized and assigned by OVERSEERS to preach in smaller geographical locations that they call FIELDS.
FIELDS are managed by two WORKERS assigned by the OVERSEER. WORKERS hold MISSIONS or a series of MEETINGS in the FIELD. The FIELD is composed of multiple Sunday MORNING MEETING groups where there are FRIENDS (people who PROFESS to believe in the WORKERS) who attend SUNDAY MORNING MEETINGS or MEETINGS IN THE HOME which are guided by the OVERSEER and WORKER appointed ELDERS.
GOSPEL MEETINGS and PROFESSING
The FRIENDS attend GOSPEL MEETINGS (typically held at rented halls) held by WORKERS about 1-2 times per week to show they are being FAITHFUL to the WORKERS. WORKERS hold GOSPEL MEETINGS in which they share the 2x2 MESSAGE to get people to join "the only way to heaven" by a process called PROFESSING (standing to their feet in a 2x2 MEETING "tested" by WORKERS).
After PROFESSING, they are allowed and encouraged to TAKE PART in SUNDAY MORNING MEETINGS or MEETINGS in the HOME. They are BAPTIZED by WORKERS once they have proven WORKERS that they understand the 2x2 message and believe in it. The majority of 2x2s believe that anyone who doesn't PROFESS in the WORKERS MEETINGS is going to hell. I have come to believe that there is a standing order among OVERSEERS that those who tell the OVERSEER that people outside the group are saved" will be promptly kicked out of the cult.
Names for the 2X2s
The name "2x2s" is used because their fundamental belief is that only the TRUE SERVANTS OF GOD/WORKERS go out "2 by 2" (in pairs). 2x2s is a short, quick, easy-to-type name. They also have registered organizational names. In Vietnam they are registered as Christian Mission. They also haved named themselves by referring to themselves "The Faith", "The Way" and "The Truth".
2x2 Religion Founder William Irvine
The "2x2" religion, "2 by 2" religion or "two by two" religion is the religion founded by William Irvine (Master Mason degree in 1885) in about 1897. According to William Irvine, to become a WORKER, one must sell everything (including your house), give them all your money and follow the OVERSEER'S and your older WORKER COMPANION's instructions (WORKERS assigned together call each other "companions").
2x2 Core Beliefs
The 2x2 cult has a core faith in homeless WORKERS who go 2x2 and preach the 2x2 message and set up MEETINGS IN THE HOME. Here's a quote from one of their well-known leaders Jack Carrol:
The two fundamentals of the faith of Christ are the minister without a home and a church in the home. - Jack Carrol, 2x2 OVERSEER of the Western United States 1951 at San Diego, California 2x2 CONVENTION.
A more accurate wording of Jack Carrol would have been "The fundamentals of the 2x2 religion is to absolutely and blindly trust and obey the OVERSEERS and WORKERS that are approved by OVERSEERS". This contrasts sharply with the two foundational commandments of GOd: Love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. And as Jesus Christ says "Love one another as I have loved you."
Child Sexual Abuse
The 2x2s are becoming more and more known as a cult that promotes and encourages child sexual abuse through their false gospel that encourages the idolatry of their ministers and fosters situations that allow child sexual abuse.
Children who complain about child sexual abuse have been and may be ignored, shut up, threatened, intimidated and emotionally shut down. For years, OVERSEERS and WORKERS have covered up child sexual abuse, fornication, adultery and used their "homeless ministry" as an excuse to put pedophiles, adulterers and fornicators into their followers homes. Many parents have had children sexually abused by OVERSEERS, WORKERS or their ELDERS and have covered it up because of their blind trust in the WORKERS and that they are the "best thing out there" (but not having investigated if this is true).
Many followers fellowship with fornicators, adulterers and child sexual abusers who have not repented, not paid restitution or settled the immense damage they have caused. OVERSEERS and WORKERS also have been convicted for failing to report child sexual abuse.
Many children who have been abused by WORKERS or seen the hypocrisy of the WORKERS sexually involved with their parents have been deeply hurt, have huge problems with relationships later in life and many come to hate God (relating God to the WORKERS- and if God is anything like the WORKERS, they want nothing to do with God). Hatred of God seems to be the ultimate goal of the OVERSEERS.
Hierarchy of the TWO by Twos
The 2x2 cult religion consists of a well-defined hierarchy of clergy and followers. The clergy includes the OLDER BROTHERS (regional OVERSEERS), state OVERSEERS, WORKERS. The followers would include ELDERS and "THE FRIENDS". Some may say that the ELDERS are clergy too, although they never baptize people, never hold gospel meetings or such.
Two by Two Proselytizing
The 2x2s proselytize by getting people to attend MEETINGS and getting them to PROFESS (standing in a WORKER TESTED MEETING). This contrasts sharply with Christianity where people are shown their sin and encouraged to repent and put their faith in God. If a Christian (mistaking their meetings as Christian) wants to join, then they must PROFESS in a TESTED MEETING, and they must be baptized by the WORKERS. A Christian baptism is considered evil by them. Also, they must quit fellowshipping with Christians. However 2x2s may attend a Christian churches to proselytize for the 2x2 religion.
2x2 Religion Financial Support
The 2x2 religion is a for-profit religion that claims to be Christian for the sake of trying to blend in. The FRIENDS support the whole for-profit organization by financing the WORKERS salary of food, clothing, shelter, transportation, cars, insurance and cash for the homeless workers they put their trust in. The FRIENDS also provide annual CONVENTION GROUNDS (land property, buildings, cooking equipment, accessory buildings etc) for the WORKERS to hold their annual CONVENTIONS.
1Jn_1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Why I Expose the Two by Two Faults on this Website
2Co 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
This cult is one of thousands of cults in the world: Masons, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons etc
Ex2x2, EXWORKER Turned Christian - Who I Am
My name is Brad Lewis, and I was raised in this cult group, PROFESSED through two WORKERS Grace Ploegsma and Willa Dahlin. At age 18, I sold everything and gave it to the OLDER BROTHER WORKERS at CONVENTION to become a WORKER myself. Their man-made rules and beliefs and lies nearly killed me several times. I don't want others to have to go through what I went through. Please learn from my mistakes. I have over 1000 pages on this website showing that this group is just another cult, and that salvation comes through faith in God. Please listen. Jesus Christ is atonement for sins. Jesus Christ is the Way. Salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ. Salvation comes through the grace of God, not earned by works (lest anyone should boast). Faith in God produces works of God in our life that evident to all. Praise the LORD! Can you praise the LORD with me?
I had trouble breaking free from the cult because I was brainwashed as a child to believe it was the only way to heaven. I had great trouble thinking straight. Once I examined the fruit of the doctrine of the workers, I saw it was a dangerous satanic cult. I realized that Satan has ministers too. The Bible teaches about satan's ministers in 2 Cor 11:15. This was a shock to me. Using the correct words and (not their redefined cult language) to describe the organization explained clearly what the workers do and don't do. It explained who is guiding the organization (Satan) and this understanding helped me to heal. And, this is nothing new. Paul wrote about deceitful workers to the Corinthians hundreds of years ago and thankfully we have his clear warnings in the Bible.
Act_26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
This is what Jesus had in mind for Saul of Tarsus. I hope you too turn from darkness to light, from the power of Satan to God. I hope you receive forgiveness of sins and are sanctified by faith in Jesus Christ. Can I pray for you?
This is Not a Hate Site
This is not a 2x2 hate site. If I hated 2x2s, I would lie about them (like they lie about their origins with founder William Irvine). I would slander them (like they slandered me for following the Bible which I have a God-given right to do). I would slash their tires (like they vandalized cars by breaking off antennas of people who owned radios). If I hated them, I would not warn them about the health consequences that afflict cult members (like they denied me medical care when I was dying of salmonella). If I hated them, I would not warn them but would join their ranks in preaching their twisted gospel of the WORKERS. If I hated them, I would not spend hundreds of hours explaining scripture to people who have been deceived by the overseers and workers. If I hated them, I would not pray for them. If I hated them, I would not have spent hours helping 2x2s maintain their homes. If someone tells you that this is a 2x2 hate site, it is because they have not known the love of God.
Common Two by Two Lies - "No Name, Non-denominational"
They will lie to you and tell you that their church has "no name" (lie) or is a "non-denomination Christian church"(lie). But they do have a name and amongst themselves call themselves "the TRUTH" or "the WAY" or "the TESTIMONY". They claim they are not an organization(lie), but they are very organized with tens or hundreds of thousands of members around the world working together. They were started in 1897 by their founder William Irvine (a Master Mason degree in 1885), though they will often tell people that they have no founder(lie). This organization has a religious form and is very evil! Read their 2x2 Beliefs in the navigation section above. They will not fellowship with Christians, unless appearing to do so will deceive an OUTSIDER into joining their religion. Most of them believe that they alone are the "chosen ones", "the remnant" and only ones going to heaven. They are anti-Christian in deed and despise Christians in their heart. I know, because this is how I learned to think from being raised in this group.
2x2 WORKER Preaching - A Different Gospel - Anti-Christian
The 2x2 OVERSEERS and WORKERS preach a gospel against God. The preach that people need to come to MEETINGS and PROFESS. Many believe that you cannot know if you are saved until after you die. They demand attendance to their meetings and not Christian fellowship. They do not preach repentance of sins and salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. They do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. I believe they will tell you anything, avoid objective discussions and lie to you to get you comfortable with them. Please do not attend their MEETINGS. There is an evil, sweet lying spirit in their meetings that they use to get people to submit to their will.
Eph_6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Having faith in the WORKERS that you must believe in their "GOSPEL" and that they are "the WAY" and "the TRUTH" will not save your soul. This is anti-Christ. Jesus teaches:
Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What the OLDER BROTHERS, OVERSEERS and WORKERS Have Done to Become a Cult
The OVERSEERS and WORKERS don't fellowship with Christians. It's either the WORKERS WAY or the highway. If you are not PROFESSING, then you are an OUTSIDER. The OLDER BROTHERS, OVERSEERS and WORKERS teach this cult mentality. Their goal is to get you to join or discredit you.
There are many reasons why I believe the 2x2 organization is a cult. First, I know from growing up in the cult that it is all about an outward form dictated by the WORKERS of PROFESSING and GOING TO MEETINGS. I didn't have to have a relationship with Jesus Christ much less know who he really is. Secondly, the WORKERS have a great lust to be in control over their followers who they call THE FRIENDS. They are afraid of their followers even preaching their version of Jesus on their own or having their own Bible studies unless the person is seducing someone. I have witnessed these things first hand. Third, the fundamental teachings are anti-Christ. They exalt themselves over God. They tell people one thing and believe another and practice another thing. I have personally done this myself. There was a huge difference between my true beliefs and what I said as a 2x2. This hypocrisy worked death in my soul. Also, I felt like I would go to hell if I didn't "profess", even though at the same time, I didn't know if I was saved. I was very confused from their brainwashing when I was dumbed down from their "GOSPEL" MEETINGS.
2x2s - Their Condemnation
Although the overseers have been told the true gospel, they refuse it, and continue to preach their perverted gospel.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Hallmarks of 2x2s
The fundamental beliefs of the 2x2s is their "homeless workers" and their "meetings in the home". The hallmark of the devout 2x2s that I've seen is that they can lie directly to my face and not flinch. This makes them very dangerous to unsuspecting people. They have seducing spirits.So please, please do not mistake kind, sweet answers to your questions as a sign of truth-telling. The first lie you will probably ever hear from them when you ask about their religion is "We don't have a name". The second lie will probably be "Our ministers go out like the 12 apostles". While they appear so "sincere", upon questioning you will most likely find that they will still lie even when confronted with the truth. Some of them may even say, if asked, that that this website is not even about them or is about some other group. Typically, people can only detect when someone is telling a lie 50% of the time. That's not good odds. Now, consider that most 2x2s believe their own lies. That makes it even harder to tell when they lie. Plus, those who reject the truth, are given a lie to believe in. That's how much they believe their lies. They are given over to lies.
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Secretive and Occult Practices
The 2x2s are secretive. They often carefully answer questions with guile, often using double meanings. They redefine words in cult members minds to make their Christian-sounding preaching strengthen the cult mind control while appearing innocent to bystanders. Their man-made theology can be revealed through careful attention to detail and good documentation. The occult knowledge is passed down verbally through the ranks and let out gradually as people demonstrate their commitment and devotion to the workers.
Some Claim to be Christians
Some 2x2s will claim to be Christians for their own gain. But it is in word only. When I've spoken to my 2x2 relatives, they will tell me "Don't try to convert me" (knowing full well I'm Christian), when I tell them about the Jesus Christ in the Bible. They have their god and they don't want the God of heaven. It's so clear. Here's what I hear them saying:
You have your God, we have ours. I don't want to hear about your God. I don't want to think about it. I don't want to hear about it. Don't talk to me about God or the Bible. I don't even what to think about it.
They may go to your church (not for fellowship, but for getting you to buy into their lies) in a trade with you if you will go to their 2x2 meetings. But it's only for the purpose of doing whatever it takes to get you to their meetings where their spirit works. They know the lying spirit will do it's work from there. The devil and time are on their side. They know you will become conditioned to the easy to swallow lies that appeal to brutish, naive and simple folk.
Form of Godliness
2x2s have a wonderfully remarkable appearance of godliness. If you don't do your research, you can be seduced. Rat poison contains more than 99.9% good food. It's the lesser ingredient of poison that kills. How much? Less than 0.1% of it is poison. The poison destroys and kills and negates all the good food in rat poison.
Evident Goals of 2x2 Overseers
The goal I see of the overseer is to get you to: listen to followers, come to meetings, profess in meetings, be baptized into their group, give them all your money in inheritance when you die. It's like a pyramid scheme with no real product or service in which the regional overseers and state overseers end up with the money. And you go to hell, having rejected the real Jesus Christ and the true gospel.
The 2x2s use hymn books from RL Allan and Sons titled "Hymns Old & New". Ask your boyfriend or girlfriend if you can look at their hymnal. It may say near the front cover. This is one way of positively identifying a 2x2 follower. RL Allan and Sons was set up by another company to only print the workers' hymnals and Bibles.
Brief Hierarchy of 2x2 Religion
If you can pry out of them the name of their "ministers/workers" then you can do an Internet search on those names to confirm their religion. For example, type "Lyle Schober worker" or "Lyle Schober 2x2" into a search engine like Google, Yahoo or Bing
The 2x2 religion is made of several classes of people (listed in descending order)
Meetings of the 2x2s
You can tell if someone is a 2x2 by their choice to worship on Sunday morning in a home only (and think church buildings are of the devil), though they do not rest on that day. In fact, in some countries they go to bars after their meetings. They have by tradition several meetings: Sunday morning "fellowship" meetings, Sunday "gospel" meetings, Wed night "Bible" studies, Wed night "gospel" meetings, "Special Meetings" and "Conventions".
Most people find out about their boyfriend's or girlfriend's religion from the name of their annual conventions. You can Google the name of the convention or it's city and state location that they give you. You may have to pry it out of them. (ie. search on "Georgetown Texas Convention") or go to the countries and states listed in the site navigation section above. There are conventions all around the world. The main purpose of conventions is to get more people to become "workers". People who become "workers" must sell everything, give proceeds and all their money to senior workers (typically) and become homeless. A person can only be a "worker" if the overseers approves of you.
"Special Meetings" are annual get-togethers that last just one day. There are usually two or three meetings per day. The goal is similar to conventions: to get more peopel to become workers. People will "go out into the work" at special meeting times just like conventions. You can do an Internet search on special meeting locations, but it is much easier to find out through conventions or the workers' names.
Sunday Morning Meetings
This is where the followers, under the direction of an elder, give each other their prepared statements of what they liked about what the workers said at the meetings or what they think the Bible means. They call this "giving their testimony" or "taking part". If you find out where they have Sunday morning meetings, then I doubt you can Internet search the address and confirm their religion. You would need to contact me probably or talk to someone who knows the people. You can send it to me and I can research it, but it would be much easier if you had the name of their workers or where they go to "conventions".
The 2x2s work be getting people to meetings so the seducing spirits in the meetings can give a person a special "revelation" that they are set up by God and are the only way going to heaven. They prey on ignorant, brutish, simple-minded and naive people that have had recent tragedy in their lives.
"Friends" are given "meeting lists" that tell them which Sunday morning meeting, "Bible" study and "Union meeting" (first of month, done in some areas) they are to attend. Lists are also given that tell them which annual conventions they are to attend along with addresses and dates. If you don't attend, your assigned elder may call you to find out why. Non-attendance of meetings can result in removal of your name from the list.
If your boyfriend or girlfriend lies to you about the cult, lies and denies about sexual deviances and cover-ups in the overseers and workers and elders, doesn't believe in Jesus being God, tries to buy you with money and gifts, then who is being fooled? If your boyfriend or girlfriend does this before you are even married, how do you believe this same liar will treat you after you are married? Flee youthful lusts and seducing spirits. 2x2s believe you are going to hell if you don't profess.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
I believe the 2x2 religion or 2x2s is an evil system that leads to broken homes, broken relationships and sin and death. I once placed my faith in the OVERSEERS and WORKERS but got out once I realized it was a cult. I later came to know Jesus Christ. see From Cult to Jesus
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|To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. - Jesus Christ speaking to Saul, see Act 26:18, see Salvation through Jesus Christ.|